Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma)

TheOak · 02-13-2014, 08:38 AM

I think the easier cuts have been made, the rest may be a restructure or go scenario. We have a lot of higher salary lower bonus scenarios where a cut in salary or extension with resturcuture would help.

Brees - 18.4m cap / 10.7m salary
Evans - 11m cap / 6.8m salary
Grubbs - 9.1m / 6m in salary
Sproles - 4.2m cap / 3.4m in salary
Colston - 8.3m cap / 5.5m salary
Bunkley 6m cap / 4.4m salary
Moore - 5m cap / 3.1m salary
Thomas - 2.9m cap / 2.9m salary

If each took a 1m salary cut, all would still pull roughly 2m in salary for 2014 but it would free up 8m, +3m in space from previous cuts and we have 11m in cap space.

Not sure how this will play out, I know if I am Loomis I have my schedule book for the next two days bringing them in 1 at a time and give them a choice. "Help us lower our cap, or we will help you find a new home".

Be patient, we still have a month to get under the cap and that is only for the top 51.

2014 may just be the season where 25% of the jerseys change names.

Euphoria · 02-13-2014, 08:45 AM

I was just about to offer that... most of those players could take a 1mil hair cut or more. Sproles and Thomas being the only two I would be ok staying where they are. Sign Jimmy and then get us 2-4 vets to come in and fill some wholes / upgrades and move on the the draft.

alleycat_126 · 02-13-2014, 09:50 AM

In this list of names cut only one made sense arguing to keep, and that's Greer... But I looked at it like this.... It came down to two names, in a battle for what essentially is the 4th CB spot..... If both of the names finished the season with season ending injuries, then I have to access who I have confidence can return from the injury, and who's younger..... P. rob is younger, cheaper, and has a better chance of devouring from an injury like this

CoreyO · 02-13-2014, 10:09 AM

Lol at the amount of people that don't understand football. There are so many people on saints FB saying this was a huge mistake and the defense will be nothing without these players.... Lawd have mercy

Seer1 · 02-13-2014, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by CoreyO

Lol at the amount of people that don't understand football. There are so many people on saints FB saying this was a huge mistake and the defense will be nothing without these players.... Lawd have mercy

Hell! Dis ain't d'football, dis be bidness, man! Dat be da **** I don't get! I do have a feeling the folks in charge have a pretty good idea as to what they're doing.

Danno · 02-13-2014, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by CoreyO

Lol at the amount of people that don't understand football. There are so many people on saints FB saying this was a huge mistake and the defense will be nothing without these players.... Lawd have mercy

I can count on zero hands the number of people that have said that.

Please point out just one of these idiots so that we can throw rocks at them.

ScottF · 02-13-2014, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I can count on zero hands the number of people that have said that.

Please point out just one of these idiots so that we can throw rocks at them.

Yep, Smith and Vilma were gone 5 minutes after they were hurt. They knew it, and we knew it. Harper and Greer were only slightly more surprising.
Those 4 players, combined, played in a total of 20 games (being generous w/ JV's cameo vs the Jets) and had 70 tackles.
We can probably find a way to replace that

Rugby Saint II · 02-13-2014, 12:34 PM

No surprises there. Three of them were on IR and already replaced.

SaintLeonard · 02-13-2014, 04:50 PM

So who might be next?

CoreyO · 02-13-2014, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

So who might be next?

Lance moore, meech will also walk

02-13-2014, 08:38 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,056	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) I think the easier cuts have been made, the rest may be a restructure or go scenario. We have a lot of higher salary lower bonus scenarios where a cut in salary or extension with resturcuture would help. Brees - 18.4m cap / 10.7m salary Evans - 11m cap / 6.8m salary Grubbs - 9.1m / 6m in salary Sproles - 4.2m cap / 3.4m in salary Colston - 8.3m cap / 5.5m salary Bunkley 6m cap / 4.4m salary Moore - 5m cap / 3.1m salary Thomas - 2.9m cap / 2.9m salary If each took a 1m salary cut, all would still pull roughly 2m in salary for 2014 but it would free up 8m, +3m in space from previous cuts and we have 11m in cap space. Not sure how this will play out, I know if I am Loomis I have my schedule book for the next two days bringing them in 1 at a time and give them a choice. "Help us lower our cap, or we will help you find a new home". Be patient, we still have a month to get under the cap and that is only for the top 51. 2014 may just be the season where 25% of the jerseys change names.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

02-13-2014, 08:45 AM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) I was just about to offer that... most of those players could take a 1mil hair cut or more. Sproles and Thomas being the only two I would be ok staying where they are. Sign Jimmy and then get us 2-4 vets to come in and fill some wholes / upgrades and move on the the draft.

02-13-2014, 09:50 AM	#3
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) In this list of names cut only one made sense arguing to keep, and that's Greer... But I looked at it like this.... It came down to two names, in a battle for what essentially is the 4th CB spot..... If both of the names finished the season with season ending injuries, then I have to access who I have confidence can return from the injury, and who's younger..... P. rob is younger, cheaper, and has a better chance of devouring from an injury like this

02-13-2014, 10:09 AM	#4
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02-13-2014, 06:52 PM	#5
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by CoreyO Lol at the amount of people that don't understand football. There are so many people on saints FB saying this was a huge mistake and the defense will be nothing without these players.... Lawd have mercy Hell! Dis ain't d'football, dis be bidness, man! Dat be da **** I don't get! I do have a feeling the folks in charge have a pretty good idea as to what they're doing.

02-13-2014, 06:58 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by CoreyO Lol at the amount of people that don't understand football. There are so many people on saints FB saying this was a huge mistake and the defense will be nothing without these players.... Lawd have mercy I can count on zero hands the number of people that have said that. Please point out just one of these idiots so that we can throw rocks at them.

02-13-2014, 07:48 PM	#7
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by Danno I can count on zero hands the number of people that have said that. Please point out just one of these idiots so that we can throw rocks at them. Yep, Smith and Vilma were gone 5 minutes after they were hurt. They knew it, and we knew it. Harper and Greer were only slightly more surprising. Those 4 players, combined, played in a total of 20 games (being generous w/ JV's cameo vs the Jets) and had 70 tackles. We can probably find a way to replace that

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) No surprises there. Three of them were on IR and already replaced.

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