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CheramieIII 02-15-2014 05:19 PM

Re: Saints sign K Shayne Graham and T Harris
 
Graham and Harris will both make the team. Harris will start if Zach doesn't play ball on salary.

RailBoss 02-16-2014 12:51 AM

Re: Saints sign K Shayne Graham and T Harris
 
I'm ok with Shayne Graham, so much other restructuring to focus on.

hagan714 02-16-2014 05:41 AM

Re: Saints sign K Shayne Graham and T Harris
 
Harris starting RT? oh boy

if i remember the pats game well enough i was praying for stinch's return the next week. I will need to rewatch that game

The idea does not give me the warm fuzzies right now. BIG GAMBLE to plug him in as a starter

We will have a good idea after the draft i guess

hennr 02-16-2014 03:43 PM

Re: Saints sign K Shayne Graham and T Harris
 
For most of the season harris was active on the game day 46 an not Armstead so for most of the year he was the back option at tackle.There were one or two games when Brown was out for some of the snaps as he Brown was hurt in the games.what the Saints did was move Stieff to left tackle an Harris played right tackle.i thought Harris did a good job good enough to light a fire under Stiefs backside which made Stief a better player. :bng::clown:

Rugby Saint II 02-16-2014 04:06 PM

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Striefs knees are shot. I don't think we will count on him again.

Danno 02-16-2014 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 578374)
Striefs knees are shot. I don't think we will count on him again.

Where did you hear his knees were shot?

ScottF 02-16-2014 09:00 PM

Re: Saints sign K Shayne Graham and T Harris
 
I wouldn't pencil him in as a starter just yet. Like Hagan, I would not feel too comfortable with Harris and Armstead as our bookends.
We need some stability, so why not sign him? We need backups too

biloxi-indian 02-17-2014 01:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 578400)
I wouldn't pencil him in as a starter just yet. Like Hagan, I would not feel too comfortable with Harris and Armstead as our bookends.
We need some stability, so why not sign him? We need backups too

From a financial viewpoint, the average salary for a RT with Strief experience is about $6 million per year. Harris just signed for $570k. I am not sure the Saints can afford Strief at that price given the current cap concerns.

Fans had the same stability concerns when the Saints let Faine, Goodwin, Nicks, and Bushrod all walk in FA. Not to mention when Stinchcomb retired and Strief got the RT position.

Although not wholesale, and stating the obvious, we are witnessing a youth movement with the Saints. Out with the expensive old and in with the cheap young (sans Brees). I point to the DL as a possible example (sans Bunkley).

If I were PT, Moore, and Bunkley I would be looking over my shoulder at every turn at K. Robinson, Stills, and J. Jenkins.

M. Jenkins is a FA which is why I did not include him in the above group of veterans.

hagan714 02-17-2014 03:29 AM

Re: Saints sign K Shayne Graham and T Harris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 578411)
From a financial viewpoint, the average salary for a RT with Strief experience is about $6 million per year. Harris just signed for $570k. I am not sure the Saints can afford Strief at that price given the current cap concerns.

Fans had the same stability concerns when the Saints let Faine, Goodwin, Nicks, and Bushrod all walk in FA. Not to mention when Stinchcomb retired and Strief got the RT position.

Although not wholesale, and stating the obvious, we are witnessing a youth movement with the Saints. Out with the expensive old and in with the cheap young (sans Brees). I point to the DL as a possible example (sans Bunkley).

If I were PT, Moore, and Bunkley I would be looking over my shoulder at every turn at K. Robinson, Stills, and J. Jenkins.

M. Jenkins is a FA which is why I did not include him in the above group of veterans.

i agree with your take on things and here it comes BUT i think this is a draft that can change the complexion of the team as well as make some players excellent trade bait to help with the cap.

the saints are set up to add in a RT right now via the draft. contracts line up well for that move.

TheOak 02-17-2014 07:18 AM

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aaaannnnddd.... We are down to 1.4m in cap space, not enough to start the season.

Huge cuts are coming.

We also signed Trevin Wade


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