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rezburna 02-22-2014 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 579015)
Mike Wallace isn't top 10 at his position and he got paid 60 over 5. The fact of the matter is we need Graham and regardless of what position they view him at, he's going to get paid... and we're going to pay him. Gronk gets paid 53 over 6 years and with inflation and the salary cap increase, Graham getting 60/6 is fair market value. Is he worth it? Obviously it's debatable... but it doesn't matter. We need him and he's an intricate piece to our team. Now that doesn't mean we should hand him an empty check... but if we meet half way between both tags, it should be fair for both sides.
When he left the Steelers it was pretty arguable he was. But even still, for the sake of your point, lets say he wasn't. What did the Steelers do? That 4.3 forty is down there taking L's in Miami.

Utah_Saint 02-22-2014 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 579048)
I also think another TE (Shockey type that plays with passion) will make Graham a forgotten man in New Orleans.
Just so happens the Saints did have a "Shockey type"

In three years with the Saints, Shockey gained 1406 yards and 6 touchdowns.
In the last three years, Graham has gained 3507 yards and 36 touchdowns.

And when it comes to playing with "blood and sweat", in those three years, Shockey played 38 games while Graham played 47 games in the last three seasons.

exile 02-22-2014 04:43 PM
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I'm so glad Loomis is around. He's sane. Unlike some of these comments. :mrgreen:

voodooido 02-22-2014 07:29 PM
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If he does get 10 mil a year the saints will be screwed for the next 4 years. You can not pay Drew and a TE that much. We can do without JG, we can't make it without Drew.

blackangold 02-22-2014 07:38 PM
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I don't get the fans with an argument of needing Graham. Is he a great football player? Yes, but ill argue we don't "need" Graham at all. Occasionally I actually think Graham being over targeted by Brees hurts our team.

Remember fellow Saints fans we have had the top offense many years before Jimmy came along. I guarantee you if Jimmy left we would still have a top 4 offense. So is Jimmy worth the money? Yes, but not to this team; we don't 'need' him.

Saintaintso 02-22-2014 09:00 PM
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Trade him for the 8th and pick Khalil or Clowney if available ...

rezburna 02-22-2014 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 579064)
I don't get the fans with an argument of needing Graham. Is he a great football player? Yes, but ill argue we don't "need" Graham at all. Occasionally I actually think Graham being over targeted by Brees hurts our team.

Remember fellow Saints fans we have had the top offense many years before Jimmy came along. I guarantee you if Jimmy left we would still have a top 4 offense. So is Jimmy worth the money? Yes, but not to this team; we don't 'need' him.
Bingo.

ScottF 02-22-2014 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 579027)
His numbers clearly put him up there with any top ten reciever
No, he was 15th in yards, 13 in catches. VERY big difference if you are talking franchise tag numbers

ChrisXVI 02-22-2014 09:44 PM
Re: WHAT IF? Jimmy Graham gets WR Designatin?
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 579064)
I don't get the fans with an argument of needing Graham. Is he a great football player? Yes, but ill argue we don't "need" Graham at all. Occasionally I actually think Graham being over targeted by Brees hurts our team.

Remember fellow Saints fans we have had the top offense many years before Jimmy came along. I guarantee you if Jimmy left we would still have a top 4 offense. So is Jimmy worth the money? Yes, but not to this team; we don't 'need' him.

Fantastic post... Spot on. If we pay him $10 million/year or more then I will be very disappointed in Loomis.

rezburna 02-22-2014 10:08 PM
Re: WHAT IF? Jimmy Graham gets WR Designatin?
 
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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 579076)
No, he was 15th in yards, 13 in catches. VERY big difference if you are talking franchise tag numbers
Those numbers appear to be out of the top 10. Interesting! I saw this guy, his name was Rez Burna, and he said Jimmy Graham wouldn't be top 10 at receiver.... intriguing.


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