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Old 02-27-2014, 03:03 PM   #1
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

Let the injury prone, short-armed, stone-handed chump GO.

I forgot non-blocking...

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Old 02-27-2014, 03:19 PM   #2
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

Jimmy's not asking for anything...his agent is. If they can break open the roster designation then agents will make more money. Jimmy will get signed after all that plays out.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:35 PM   #3
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My thought is if he will not come off his high horse I would do a sign and trade. Easily get a rd 1 and 2 this year for him. As deep is this draft is imagine the talent you could get with those 2 picks.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:36 PM   #4
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

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My thought is if he will not come off his high horse I would do a sign and trade. Easily get a rd 1 and 2 this year for him. As deep is this draft is imagine the talent you could get with those 2 picks.
Exactly how do you trade a player that's not under contract? Unless Jimmy is tagged, he is a free agent as of March 11th. If he is tagged, the Saints still do not own his rights until he signs the tender.

A sign and trade works for restricted free agents because the team still holds the rights to the player. But not UFAs.

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Old 02-28-2014, 07:10 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL View Post
Exactly how do you trade a player that's not under contract? Unless Jimmy is tagged, he is a free agent as of March 11th. If he is tagged, the Saints still do not own his rights until he signs the tender.

A sign and trade works for restricted free agents because the team still holds the rights to the player. But not UFAs.

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A sign and trade is what I meant. Sry for the confusion.
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A sign and trade is what I meant. Sry for the confusion.
A sign and trade will undoubtedly include an enormous signing bonus cap hit, which will stay with us if we trade him.

It will cost us 3 times more to sign and trade him as it would to just sign and keep him.
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Old 03-01-2014, 05:10 AM   #7
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A sign and trade will undoubtedly include an enormous signing bonus cap hit, which will stay with us if we trade him.



It will cost us 3 times more to sign and trade him as it would to just sign and keep him.

Thanks! My head is starting to hurt.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:47 PM   #8
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One of the big problems will be locker room chemistry. If a bunch of guys like Pierre, Sproles, ect. take a pay cut and know the money is going to Jimmy, there might be a bit of jealousy in the players.

Look, all of the players make a hell of a lot of money but when your on that level, it's about how much more you have than your counterpart. Sure having a Ferrari is cool but having one that is rare and a one of a kind is cooler. It's how wealthy people think. You are always trying to one up another person.

I believe this is silly but it exist and it's real. Life isn't fair and neither is making money. When it all boils down and the BS is brushed away, it's all about the balance in your bank account.

I hope Jimmy and his agent can be realistic about this contract but money talks and BS walks. This is the truth no matter how your spin it.

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Old 02-28-2014, 06:00 AM   #9
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The 12m shouldn't shock anyone or be offensive, it is the logical value set by the Saints front office and there is no greed involved. It's actually not even the intentional absurdly huge start of negation figure.

Play agent for a bit. You were just told the Saints want to tag your player. Why do they tag players? To avoid paying them the big number they think the player is worth for 1 season..... So they just telegraphed that your player is worth more than the tag but they are trying to get out of paying it. What is your players roll in that offense? Not his position but what does he play as? A wide receiver. What's the WR tag? 11.7m, team alluded to him being worth more than that so you go for slightly above the WR tag.

12M

As far as the comment that none of us know or have negotiated employment benefits... That statement is ignorant and absurd. 120k/year or 12m/year it is the same negotiation and hiring, it just has a few more zeros.

This pickle is BECAUSE Jimmy being tagged was leaked and discussed. Loomis should have gone at him with 8m/year from the start and never mentioned the tag. The "Franchise Tag" muddied these waters.

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If we can't pay him what the hell will I do with his jersey?


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