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TheOak 02-28-2014 07:20 AM

Re: Louis Delmas anyone?
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 579883)
I'm actually surprised we're bringing him in for a visit... pleasantly surprised. Not due the fact we could possibly sign him, but it says something about our ability to go sign free agents in general while still having Graham's contract looming over our heads.

Or.

Grahams contract is not over our heads and that decision has already been made, just can not do anything about it till the 11th.

I'm actually not sure it speaks to anything, there are a 1/2 dozen scenarios that could play out and we need to be prepared to option any one of them.

saintsfan1976 02-28-2014 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 579893)
Happy to kick the tires at least.

Don't kick too hard. Those knees may buckle.

papz 02-28-2014 08:45 AM

Re: Louis Delmas anyone?
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 579947)
Or.

Grahams contract is not over our heads and that decision has already been made, just can not do anything about it till the 11th.

I'm actually not sure it speaks to anything, there are a 1/2 dozen scenarios that could play out and we need to be prepared to option any one of them.

I doubt a decision has been made... they're negotiating. All the posturing that's been going back and forth isn't our style and the unwarranted attention doesn't do anyone well. No one wants the negative attention especially with our recent history. Sure there's plenty of scenarios that could play out, but bringing in free agents does say something.

We're open for business.

papz 02-28-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 579950)
Don't kick too hard. Those knees may buckle.

That's wrong but... :lol:

TheOak 02-28-2014 09:31 AM

Re: Louis Delmas anyone?
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 579968)
I doubt a decision has been made... they're negotiating. All the posturing that's been going back and forth isn't our style and the unwarranted attention doesn't do anyone well. No one wants the negative attention especially with our recent history. Sure there's plenty of scenarios that could play out, but bringing in free agents does say something.

We're open for business.

The one biggest issue that hasn't been decided yet but should be today, that will steer the rest of the Saints decisions is the 2014 Salary Cap.

Negotiations are ongoing presently and the actual salary cap could be anywhere between 129-135m. I know the negotiation term is somewhat confusing as the Salary Cap number is believed to be based on revenue numbers but there is a little more to it than that.

Example: (as close as I can speculate)
There are actually TWO cap numbers. There is the Compensation Cap which is based on revenue, and there is the Salary Cap which is based off of negotiation.

E.g. The 2014 Compensation cap based off of revenue calculation may be $150M, but the NFLPA has to negotiate what percentage of that goes to Salary, and what percentage of that will go to Benefits (medical, retirement, etc...) So basically you start with $150m, determine 11% will go to Benefits and 89% will go to Salary eg 132m salary cap.

papz 02-28-2014 09:38 AM

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I'm going to leave all that math to you Oak. I'm not even going to try to understand it and it's just numbers that's going to give me a headache. I'll leave that to Loomis and the rest of you number junkies.

Crusader 02-28-2014 12:01 PM

Re: Louis Delmas anyone?
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 579972)
The one biggest issue that hasn't been decided yet but should be today, that will steer the rest of the Saints decisions is the 2014 Salary Cap.

Negotiations are ongoing presently and the actual salary cap could be anywhere between 129-135m. I know the negotiation term is somewhat confusing as the Salary Cap number is believed to be based on revenue numbers but there is a little more to it than that.

Example: (as close as I can speculate)
There are actually TWO cap numbers. There is the Compensation Cap which is based on revenue, and there is the Salary Cap which is based off of negotiation.

E.g. The 2014 Compensation cap based off of revenue calculation may be $150M, but the NFLPA has to negotiate what percentage of that goes to Salary, and what percentage of that will go to Benefits (medical, retirement, etc...) So basically you start with $150m, determine 11% will go to Benefits and 89% will go to Salary eg 132m salary cap.

Posts like that is why this is a thinking man's forum.

TheOak 02-28-2014 12:56 PM

Re: Louis Delmas anyone?
 
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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 579982)
Posts like that is why this is a thinking man's forum.

Ya think? :)

rezburna 02-28-2014 02:30 PM

Re: Louis Delmas anyone?
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 579972)
The one biggest issue that hasn't been decided yet but should be today, that will steer the rest of the Saints decisions is the 2014 Salary Cap.

Negotiations are ongoing presently and the actual salary cap could be anywhere between 129-135m. I know the negotiation term is somewhat confusing as the Salary Cap number is believed to be based on revenue numbers but there is a little more to it than that.

Example: (as close as I can speculate)
There are actually TWO cap numbers. There is the Compensation Cap which is based on revenue, and there is the Salary Cap which is based off of negotiation.

E.g. The 2014 Compensation cap based off of revenue calculation may be $150M, but the NFLPA has to negotiate what percentage of that goes to Salary, and what percentage of that will go to Benefits (medical, retirement, etc...) So basically you start with $150m, determine 11% will go to Benefits and 89% will go to Salary eg 132m salary cap.

Over achieving Oak. Lol.

Rugby Saint II 03-02-2014 04:29 PM

Re: Louis Delmas anyone?
 
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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 579982)
Posts like that is why this is a thinking man's forum.

We don't have to think. We have members who do it for you.:wink:


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