2014 Cap #?

|Mitch| · 02-28-2014, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

According to overthecap we're currently 1.6 million under.

That factors in the Graham franchise tag at 7 mil, so we were roughly 9 mil under before...

ChrisXVI · 02-28-2014, 06:46 PM

So regardless of whether Jimmy is franchised as a TE or a WR we still have a lot of work to do salary cap-wise. This is gonna get interesting. I think we may be in for some dramatic moves.

lee909 · 03-01-2014, 01:24 AM

The Graham deal will get dobe with a low cap hit in the first year and Brees will open up the space next year and Cam Jordan will be sorted.

TheOak · 03-01-2014, 04:59 AM

Presently we are 8.1m under the cap.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/cap-hit/

I wouldn't expect that number to budge much if any until AFTER negotiations or what ever with Jimmy reach a certain point.

Loomis has a stack of restructures on his desk but isn't going to do anything just yet.

One doesn't tell a person he is about to haggle with that he just found 6 MORE million dollars.

You go into Graham like we are now, just over the TE FT, and you NEVER tell Jimny he isn't worth 12m, you just tell him we only have 8m.

lee909 · 03-01-2014, 05:02 AM

Im on my phone, is that 8.1 after Jimmys TE tag or before?.

Rugby Saint II · 03-02-2014, 04:22 PM

Well, that gives us a little more to work with. Those first four cuts hurt but we needed the money.

TheOak · 03-03-2014, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Im on my phone, is that 8.1 after Jimmys TE tag or before?.

That is with out jimmy's tag. Jimmy was not tagged with a position so there is no $ amount to assign, and he has not signed any tag tender so we will not see a cap hit until both happen.

Danno · 03-03-2014, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

That is with out jimmy's tag. Jimmy was not tagged with a position so there is no $ amount to assign, and he has not signed any tag tender so we will not see a cap hit until both happen.

According to overthecap, we're 1.6 under the cap, and they're currently using 7 million (TE) for Jimmy's cap hit. Add 5 million to that figure if he wins the WR designation.

» Over the Cap- New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts.

TheOak · 03-03-2014, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

According to overthecap, we're 1.6 under the cap, and they're currently using 7 million (TE) for Jimmy's cap hit. Add 5 million to that figure if he wins the WR designation.

» Over the Cap- New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts.

OTC is premature in assigning a value and no tender has been offered to Jimmy yet.

1. The Saints don’t designate the position.

Despite reports suggesting that the Saints would be tagging Graham as a tight end, the Saints simply apply the tag generically. The NFL Management Council will determine whether to apply the $7.035 million tight end franchise tender or the far more lucrative $12.315 million receiver franchise tender.
ProSportsDaily

Danno · 03-03-2014, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

OTC is premature in assigning a value and no tender has been offered to Jimmy yet.

1. The Saints don’t designate the position.

Despite reports suggesting that the Saints would be tagging Graham as a tight end, the Saints simply apply the tag generically. The NFL Management Council will determine whether to apply the $7.035 million tight end franchise tender or the far more lucrative $12.315 million receiver franchise tender.
ProSportsDaily

True, I'm just saying that OTC is using TE tag numbers to arrive at their 1.6 under number. I'm sure its just an estimate.

We'll be 3.4 over if he's given the WR tag.

02-28-2014, 06:28 PM	#11
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: 2014 Cap #? Originally Posted by Danno According to overthecap we're currently 1.6 million under. That factors in the Graham franchise tag at 7 mil, so we were roughly 9 mil under before...

02-28-2014, 06:46 PM	#12
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2014 Cap #? So regardless of whether Jimmy is franchised as a TE or a WR we still have a lot of work to do salary cap-wise. This is gonna get interesting. I think we may be in for some dramatic moves.

03-01-2014, 01:24 AM	#13
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,777 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2014 Cap #? The Graham deal will get dobe with a low cap hit in the first year and Brees will open up the space next year and Cam Jordan will be sorted.

03-01-2014, 04:59 AM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: 2014 Cap #? Presently we are 8.1m under the cap. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/cap-hit/ I wouldn't expect that number to budge much if any until AFTER negotiations or what ever with Jimmy reach a certain point. Loomis has a stack of restructures on his desk but isn't going to do anything just yet. One doesn't tell a person he is about to haggle with that he just found 6 MORE million dollars. You go into Graham like we are now, just over the TE FT, and you NEVER tell Jimny he isn't worth 12m, you just tell him we only have 8m. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: 2014 Cap #? Originally Posted by lee909 Im on my phone, is that 8.1 after Jimmys TE tag or before?. That is with out jimmy's tag. Jimmy was not tagged with a position so there is no $ amount to assign, and he has not signed any tag tender so we will not see a cap hit until both happen.

03-03-2014, 08:11 AM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,653	Re: 2014 Cap #? Originally Posted by TheOak That is with out jimmy's tag. Jimmy was not tagged with a position so there is no $ amount to assign, and he has not signed any tag tender so we will not see a cap hit until both happen. According to overthecap, we're 1.6 under the cap, and they're currently using 7 million (TE) for Jimmy's cap hit. Add 5 million to that figure if he wins the WR designation. » Over the Cap- New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts.

03-03-2014, 08:14 AM	#19
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: 2014 Cap #? Originally Posted by Danno According to overthecap, we're 1.6 under the cap, and they're currently using 7 million (TE) for Jimmy's cap hit. Add 5 million to that figure if he wins the WR designation. » Over the Cap- New Orleans Saints 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts. OTC is premature in assigning a value and no tender has been offered to Jimmy yet. 1. The Saints don’t designate the position. Despite reports suggesting that the Saints would be tagging Graham as a tight end, the Saints simply apply the tag generically. The NFL Management Council will determine whether to apply the $7.035 million tight end franchise tender or the far more lucrative $12.315 million receiver franchise tender. ProSportsDaily

03-03-2014, 08:17 AM	#20
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,653	Re: 2014 Cap #? Originally Posted by TheOak OTC is premature in assigning a value and no tender has been offered to Jimmy yet. 1. The Saints don’t designate the position. Despite reports suggesting that the Saints would be tagging Graham as a tight end, the Saints simply apply the tag generically. The NFL Management Council will determine whether to apply the $7.035 million tight end franchise tender or the far more lucrative $12.315 million receiver franchise tender. ProSportsDaily True, I'm just saying that OTC is using TE tag numbers to arrive at their 1.6 under number. I'm sure its just an estimate. We'll be 3.4 over if he's given the WR tag.

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