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dueceloose 02-28-2014 01:02 PM

Re: PT23 and Sprolles Replacement 2014?
 
Is everyone forgetting about Robinson here? I'd rather replace pt with him than someone else. He's shown he can handle a bigger load and looked good running screens vs Seattle if u ask me. the main person would be sproles to replace or ingram if we go that rout. Is it preseason yet?

foreverfan 02-28-2014 03:18 PM

Re: PT23 and Sprolles Replacement 2014?
 
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Originally Posted by dueceloose (Post 579992)
Is everyone forgetting about Robinson here? I'd rather replace pt with him than someone else. He's shown he can handle a bigger load and looked good running screens vs Seattle if u ask me. the main person would be sproles to replace or ingram if we go that rout. Is it preseason yet?

Yea... it's the offseason so everyone in on the chopping block.


jeanpierre 02-28-2014 04:14 PM

Re: PT23 and Sprolles Replacement 2014?
 
Here's our RB situation...

Pierre Thomas, 29 yrs, Last Year of Contract, $2.9 mil Cap Number, $2.9mil Cap Savings, $0mil Dead Money
Darren Sproles, 30 yrs, Last Year of Contract, $4.25mil Cap Number, $3.5mil Cap Savings, $0.75mil Dead Money
Mark Ingram, 24 yrs, Last Year of Rookie Contract, $2.36mil Cap Number, $1.38mil Cap Savings, $0.98mil Dead Money (rounded figures)
Khiry Robinson, 24 yrs, Contract through 2015, $495,333 Cap Number, $494,666 Cap Savings, $667 Dead Money
Travaris Cadet, 25 yrs, Last Year of Rookie Contract, $571,668 Cap Number, $570,000 Cap Savings, $1,668 Dead Money

So we have five (5) running backs under contract with four (4) of those contracts expiring after this upcoming season...

Two (2) of those running backs will be 30+ years old at the end of the season...

Two (2) of the younger running backs had a strong finish to last season and playoffs but have no history of doing it for all 16 games with 10+ touches per game...

So with the Saints offense, multiple schemes, multiple roles, multiple responsibilities, and four (4) of the five (5) RBs in the last year of their contracts, would it not be prudent to acquire one (1) even two (2) RBs this season to compete and acclimate to the Saints offense...

No one's necessarily hating on the amazing resumes of PT or Sproles here in New Orleans - it's just reality of age and NFL economics are dictating something should be done this season...

hagan714 02-28-2014 04:36 PM

Re: PT23 and Sprolles Replacement 2014?
 
K. Robinson replaces P. Thomas ?????????????

not really the swap you want, Robinson replaces Ingram. power backs as of now neither has shown really any value in the passing game. right now this is the only change that makes sense. If you draft Bishop Sankey then you have a power back that replaces Ingram and puts serious pressure on Robinson and probably PT.

Cadet replaces Sproles ???????

Cadet has not really stepped up his game so i really do not see the roster spot for him

Darrins replacement? thats a hard one.

PT replacement i would have to bring in Simms/white for that and go a year to make sure. they get cadets spot. now next year if all goes well you can decide on who stays or goes

But to make a whole sale change in the backfield this year is way to risky with OC and ROT up in the air. do not mess drew up with a player that can not pick up the blitz.

Blocking and receiving are key in our offense. 3rd down style back is such a key component in our system.

must do all three well - Run Catch and Block

running is an accent that you want to perfect but in no way do you risk drew with a whole sale change.

the least amount of impact to our system would be
replacing ingram with Sankey
replace cadet with Simms or White (bit riskier move)
Let the year play out and see what happens

lets make it easy PT and darrin retire next year leaving us with
Robinson, Shankey. Simms/white

jeanpierre 02-28-2014 04:43 PM

Re: PT23 and Sprolles Replacement 2014?
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 580022)
make a whole sale change in the backfield this year is way to risky with OC and ROT up in the air. do not mess drew up with a player that can not pick up the blitz.

Blocking is key in our offense. running is an accent that you want to perfect but in no way do you risk drew with a whole sale change.

3rd down style back is such a key component in our system.

must do all three well - Run Catch and Block


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halloween 65 02-28-2014 07:47 PM

Re: PT23 and Sprolles Replacement 2014?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 580022)
K. Robinson replaces P. Thomas ?????????????

not really the swap you want, Robinson replaces Ingram. power backs as of now neither has shown really any value in the passing game. right now this is the only change that makes sense. If you draft Bishop Sankey then you have a power back that replaces Ingram and puts serious pressure on Robinson and probably PT.

Cadet replaces Sproles ???????

Cadet has not really stepped up his game so i really do not see the roster spot for him

Darrins replacement? thats a hard one.

PT replacement i would have to bring in Simms/white for that and go a year to make sure. they get cadets spot. now next year if all goes well you can decide on who stays or goes

But to make a whole sale change in the backfield this year is way to risky with OC and ROT up in the air. do not mess drew up with a player that can not pick up the blitz.

Blocking and receiving are key in our offense. 3rd down style back is such a key component in our system.

must do all three well - Run Catch and Block

running is an accent that you want to perfect but in no way do you risk drew with a whole sale change.

the least amount of impact to our system would be
replacing ingram with Sankey
replace cadet with Simms or White (bit riskier move)
Let the year play out and see what happens

lets make it easy PT and darrin retire next year leaving us with
Robinson, Shankey. Simms/white

You could trade Sproles and get a possible 3rd or a sure 4th and pick up a pretty good back with that pick.
Cadet - he has shown me nothing other than taking up space on the roster. A good return man could easily take his slot, not necessarily a RB. but a young reciever
Pt - who has a complete game could be used as a situational back while Robinson, Ingram , and the back we got with the Sproles pick would do fine.
Myself I would like another power back instead of a (Sproles, Bush) type. Smash mouth opens up the throwing lanes better than the cute screen game we have. To beat teams like Seattle we have to play smash mouth football!!

Boutte 02-28-2014 09:09 PM

Re: PT23 and Sprolles Replacement 2014?
 
What if they aren't as good when they start playing with the big boys? That happens a lot.

halloween 65 02-28-2014 09:26 PM

Re: PT23 and Sprolles Replacement 2014?
 
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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 580087)
What if they aren't as good when they start playing with the big boys? That happens a lot.

Pick carefully!! Look at the benifits if it does? I

hagan714 03-01-2014 12:06 AM

Re: PT23 and Sprolles Replacement 2014?
 
in the end it is always a crap shoot

Ashley 03-01-2014 08:27 AM

Re: PT23 and Sprolles Replacement 2014?
 
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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 579903)
These guys remind me so much of a younger version of what we have now and would be an adequate replacement replacing an older player and saving cap room. Hate to see these guys go... Offense was our problem at the end of the season. Tell me what you think Sean Payton could do with these guys in our offense.

These guys could be gotten in the 4-5 rounds. Draft CB in Round 1, WR in round 2, ILB in round 3. In Free Agency fill the holes then proceed to scare the hell out of the rest of the NFL.


Replacing Pierre Thomas RB JAMES WHITE - WISCONSIN
This guy reminds me of a young PT.

Ultimate James White Highlights | HD - YouTube



Replacing Darren Sproles RB DE’ANTHONY THOMAS - OREGON
This guy reminds me of Reggie Bush and Darren Sproles

De'Anthony Thomas (The Black Mamba) 1080p HD - YouTube








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