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These guys remind me so much of a younger version of what we have now and would be an adequate replacement replacing an older player and saving cap room. Hate to see these guys go... Offense was our problem at the end of the season. Tell me what you think Sean Payton could do with these guys in our offense.

These guys could be gotten in the 4-5 rounds. Draft CB in Round 1, WR in round 2, ILB in round 3. In Free Agency fill the holes then proceed to scare the hell out of the rest of the NFL.

De'Anthony Thomas (The Black Mamba) 1080p HD - YouTube

De'Anthony Thomas (The Black Mamba) 1080p HD - YouTube

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De'Anthony Thomas may have only run a 4.5 at combine, but all I see is him outrunning everyone en route to the end zone. His change of direction and stop on a dime ability is incredible. Put him on kick return duty and call it a day.

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4.5 for a RB kills. Replace Cadet with De'Anthony Thomas. Keep PT23.... run his butt off the beginning of the season then put in the younger guys. You'd have to cut Sproles.

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First time watching tape on James white I'm impressed what was his combine numbers?

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I'd rather have Dri Archer...but that 4.26 40 probably put him in front of De'Anthony Thomas on most teams draft board. Or Georgia Southern's Jerick McKinnon.

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You would have to draft him too early.

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Throw away that first draft pick who actually became productive last year( mark Ingram) and the running back who showed the most potential in a back for Nola in the last 5 years and lets draft 2 backs and leave all the other wholes wide open?!? Why don't we just draft a Qb first too and trade all the rest of our picks to get these guys. No thanks. We need to get what we truely need, lb cb oline wr possible safety.

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My wife's from right outside Madison, WI so I've watched tons of Wisconsin games over the last few years... James White doesn't remind me of Pierre but he does have some similar attributes like being very capable as a receiver and in pass protection. I wouldn't mind drafting him.

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RB Charles Sims RB/WR/KR West Virgina 5117 214 4.48 gets my vote
BENCH 17
VET 37 1/2 "
BROAD 10'05"
SHUTTLE 4.30
3 CONE 7.16

He amazes me all year he played behind one of the worse OL in college and look at the numbers he still put up (video 1). he will end up being a steal in the draft he is the complete package. he was the only reason i watched mountaineer football at this year.

Big gamble trade Ingram and roll the dice on the new kid Robinson. Cut cadet a player I pulled for and draft this kid to groom as RB replacement to use in rotation with Robinson. If he works out then talk about what to do with PT and Sproils then. Sim has the ability to be an impact player in the NFL for many years to come. Do not chuckle to hard when you read the Forte comparisons. He fits our offense perfectly.

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next

Washington's Bishop Sankey 5091 209 4.49
BENCH 26
VET 35" 1/2
BROAD 10' 5"
SHUTTLE 4.00
3 CONE 6.75

Like Simms i have like this kid all college season long. you know he is all Washington has on offense and still they could not stop him. Ok Washington OL is one of the more under rated run blocking units in college football. Pass blocking is a different thing all together. PLUS and a BIG PLUS like Sim he has good hands. Blocking needs a bit of work but he does not shy away from it

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lets see what we got for a short list

R2 Bishop Sankey - Washington
R3 Charles Sims - West Virgina
R4 JAMES WHITE - WISCONSIN
R5 Dri Archer - Kent St.
R6 Jerick McKinnon Georgia Southern's

Not bad not bad at all

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Why are we replacing them again?

Even if they both go, I dont think we have to go out and find a replacement.

K. Robinson replaces P. Thomas
Cadet replaces Sproles

Seems like we are going after a whole new team in the draft... C'mon man!

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There is no way I see Dri Archer being there in the 5th round but if he is then I would be all for that...A Sproles replacement for both returning and offense. And McKinnon...the same for him....he appears to have a very high ceiling with some good coaching

If we got either one I would be very happy!!

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Looks like there are a ton of good scat back Sproles types in this draft.
I think we may target one late in the draft, if they're BPA when we pick.

To me, both PT and Sproles looked like they're starting to slow down a bit. Not a whole lot, but they aren't getting any younger.

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Could save over $6ml in cap cutting both Sproles and Thomas.

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I don't think Cadet is the answer to replace Sproles. We need someone a bit more shiftier, elusive and can scare the hell out of you on any given punt/kick off return. I don't think Cadet is that back.

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I don't think we need a RB to return kicks. Most of those guys are WRs.
2013 NFL Player Returning Stats - National Football League - ESPN

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Maybe you didnt discuss it enough because we didnt run out of backs in that game. When your last possession is a TD with 1:34 left on the clock, you cant run the clock out, you don't have the ball.

You had 3 backs for that game anyway, how many do you need? You think using a 4th running back would have bade a difference? Jones, Bush, Evans
Only players injured in that game were Obomanu and henderson.

This season we would have Collins, K. Robinson, Ingram, and Cadet = 4


In 2010 we went through 10 RBs on the roster, 1-2 more would have not made a difference.

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Is everyone forgetting about Robinson here? I'd rather replace pt with him than someone else. He's shown he can handle a bigger load and looked good running screens vs Seattle if u ask me. the main person would be sproles to replace or ingram if we go that rout. Is it preseason yet?

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Yea... it's the offseason so everyone in on the chopping block.

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K. Robinson replaces P. Thomas ?????????????

not really the swap you want, Robinson replaces Ingram. power backs as of now neither has shown really any value in the passing game. right now this is the only change that makes sense. If you draft Bishop Sankey then you have a power back that replaces Ingram and puts serious pressure on Robinson and probably PT.

Cadet replaces Sproles ???????

Cadet has not really stepped up his game so i really do not see the roster spot for him

Darrins replacement? thats a hard one.

PT replacement i would have to bring in Simms/white for that and go a year to make sure. they get cadets spot. now next year if all goes well you can decide on who stays or goes

But to make a whole sale change in the backfield this year is way to risky with OC and ROT up in the air. do not mess drew up with a player that can not pick up the blitz.

Blocking and receiving are key in our offense. 3rd down style back is such a key component in our system.

must do all three well - Run Catch and Block

running is an accent that you want to perfect but in no way do you risk drew with a whole sale change.

the least amount of impact to our system would be
replacing ingram with Sankey
replace cadet with Simms or White (bit riskier move)
Let the year play out and see what happens

lets make it easy PT and darrin retire next year leaving us with
Robinson, Shankey. Simms/white

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 580022) make a whole sale change in the backfield this year is way to risky with OC and ROT up in the air. do not mess drew up with a player that can not pick up the blitz. Blocking is key in our offense. running is an accent that you want to perfect but in no way do you risk drew with a whole sale change. 3rd down style back is such a key component in our system. must do all three well - Run Catch and Block

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You could trade Sproles and get a possible 3rd or a sure 4th and pick up a pretty good back with that pick.
Cadet - he has shown me nothing other than taking up space on the roster. A good return man could easily take his slot, not necessarily a RB. but a young reciever
Pt - who has a complete game could be used as a situational back while Robinson, Ingram , and the back we got with the Sproles pick would do fine.
Myself I would like another power back instead of a (Sproles, Bush) type. Smash mouth opens up the throwing lanes better than the cute screen game we have. To beat teams like Seattle we have to play smash mouth football!!

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What if they aren't as good when they start playing with the big boys? That happens a lot.

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Pick carefully!! Look at the benifits if it does? I

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in the end it is always a crap shoot

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Im down for upgrading, its like turning in your old bat for a new hotter version

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Pt stays for blocking and grooming KR.

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Trade Ingram if possible.........if not trade Sproles.

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then you should like Bishop Sankey the most of the group. He should be had in probably the bottom of round 2. nice thing about him he is a much better reciever than either Ingram or Robinson. which is good because you pick among the three after 2014.

in all odds he would take the pressure off signing Ingram in 2015. if you really are solid on shankey on draft day Ingram becomes excellent trade bait, last year of his contract and all. the saints can package ingram for for a pick and player combo trade.

either way it offers flexibility options for dealing with the cap this year and next

thats what the saints need.

now if the saints land shankey and say the saints love the kid. Options open up and they could package Ingram/Sproils in one of those funky trade with picks and players and also end up with Sims/white later in draft. i perfer Sims :) If the gamble pays off and both of the rookies work out great in 2014 the saints would be sitting pretty cap wise in 2015 as far as the RB position goes. No pressure to sign players or cut players. you would be saving money going into the 2015 off season at the RB position.

It's all a gamble but when your hampered by the cap you gotta take some risks. this year is looks to be a good year to gamble at RB because the RB styles fit the saints mold

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I don't think we're going to attack teams how we've been attacking them since Payton was hired..New style backs..

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Sprolles replacement could be Sprolles.

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I love some of the scat backs coming out but at the same time, if Cadet remains on the roster, it's time to see what he can offer.

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Draft best available first round. We usually have bad luck reaching to fill a need in the first.

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Two of our top receiving targets these past few years are now off the team.. I'm thinking we might go WR in the first round, which I'm certainly not opposed to.

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Archer reminds me a lot of Chris Johnson