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@LarryHolder: RT @MalcolmJenkins: Man... @Pierre_Thomas @LanceMoore16 @Harp41 @DarrenSproles are all going to make another team very happy! Can't ask for better teammates!

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Yute Mootment.

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I'm loving this in large part due to the play book rewrite that will ensue to maximize on the new talent.

I don't feel bad about them being let go, more about them leaving. If that makes sense.

PT for example - Worked for the same company for 7 years fresh out of college and made $11,200,000.00 .

Would you be sad if I told you "work for me for just 7 years and I'll pay you $11.2m?

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It's not his place to tweet the news if indeed true in my opinion.

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Will Malcolm be joining them as well?

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Im unsure on this overall.
I like the idea of getting the team yonger and faster but with limited cap space over the next two years and Drew Brees being 37 by the end of the 2015 season there is a risk here of wasting his best remaining years.

The next few weeks will say everything that needs to be said.
I wonder if after next season we are are going to be in for a few shocks with the top players getting traded or dumped.

Im guessing coach has a plan

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Robinson, Cadet, & Ingram are all young & promising. Cadet will replace Sproles as the swing back & PR. Morgan will also return punts as well.


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Most of these guys are currently replaceable with cheaper versions. I don't think we've released a single player that can't be replaced with the same production and lower costs.

Remember, Cam Jordan is a free-agent next year and thats gonna be a 12 million/season deal. And if we don't sign Jimmy this year he'll be a free agent next year too.

And then the following year Hicks and Galette...

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I agree with you 100% @Danno


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I agree Danno
But as things stand assuming Jimmy is tagged at the TE money and PT is cut we are around $8.5ml under the cap.With the below roster.Some glaring holes with little money

Quarterbacks
9 Drew Brees
4 Ryan Griffin

Running backs
39 Travaris Cadet
22 Mark Ingram
35 Austin Johnson FB
29 Khiry Robinson

Wide receivers
12 Marques Colston
11 Chris Givens
18 Charles Hawkins
84 Kenny Stills
14 Andy Tanner
88 Nick Toon

Tight ends
80 Jimmy Graham TE
89 Josh Hill
82 Benjamin Watson

Offensive linemen
72 Terron Armstead T
73 Jahri Evans G
66 Ben Grubbs G
79 Bryce Harris T
70 Marcel Jones T
65 Senio Kelemete G
68 Tim Lelito C/G
78 Ty Nsekhe T
Defensive linemen
77 Brodrick Bunkley NT
97 Glenn Foster DE
76 Akiem Hicks DE
92 John Jenkins NT
94 Cameron Jordan DE
75 Tyrunn Walker DE

Linebackers
90 Victor Butler OLB
55 Keyunta Dawson OLB
93 Junior Galette OLB
57 David Hawthorne ILB
59 Rufus Johnson OLB
58 Kyle Knox OLB
50 Curtis Lofton ILB
52 Kevin Reddick ILB

Defensive backs
34 Derrius Brooks CB
20 A. J. Davis CB
31 Terrence Frederick CB
28 Keenan Lewis CB
21 Patrick Robinson CB
38 Rod Sweeting CB
32 Kenny Vaccaro SS
30 Trevin Wade CB
24 Corey White CB
25 Rafael Bush FS

Special teams
2 Derek Dimke K
47 Justin Drescher LS
3 Shayne Graham K
6 Thomas Morstead P

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If PT leaves that will really be the one that hurts me. But I can't argue with it either, not when Robinson is just as productive and 1/4th the price.

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Other cuts are understandable but PT leaving will hurt us. I'm not talking about YPC. I'm talking about everything else he does on the field.

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I have a buddy who lives in Philly and they are really high on the potential of signing Malcolm and would love them to join Eagles secondary. My guess is that MJ will be gone pretty soon.

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Thanks for the memories PT!

Never met a screen play he did not like.

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Couldn't have said it better!

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Like others have said, this one will hurt. I'm gonna be dreading his farewell message all day now.

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We're going to see the Khiry and Ingram pain train. Now while I loved Thomas and Sproles to death, if they were on the team, we were going to fall back into old habits and continue to throw the ball a billion times a game.

Sometimes you just have to know when to let go.

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It would hurt under the old game plan.... Which was very predictable and failed a few times.

The flip-side is that with out dynamic versatile running backs, Sean Payton will have to actually RUN the ball. Is call that a blessing towards balance.

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I think thats a pretty poor comment to make.
Not one of them players stole a penny.It may not have been there best year at the Saints but they all put the effort in,you could accuse any of them of taking a day off and prtecting themselves .Plenty of players have phoned it in and could be accused of stealing money,not them three

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Agreed, I think its safe to say we won't be nearly as predictable on offense next season with the personell over turning we are doing

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Someone slapped his hand

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Good Question

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Let them over pay for Jenkins, hopefully that will allow Clinton-Dix or Pryor to fall to us in the first.

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Well said. I want Pryor!!

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Same thing happened when reggie bush tweeted the "see ya" when ingram was drafted then retracted it, malcolm no doubt knows more than we do so I wouldnt be suprised to see PT cut or traded if possible

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That's a case of good info, bad timing. ;)

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Remember younger means less experience.

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Here is what a lot of people are missing...

Some teams just don't know when its time to part with some players... At least we are moving on before they lose a step and we find out during a season.

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But also less wear and tear.

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@papz well said


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Looks guys its time we all faced reality:
1.)Lance Moore was set to make $5 Mill + as our #3 WR. Too much money for too little production.

2.) Darren Sproles gain less than half of what he gained 2 seasons ago.

3.) Pierre Thomas' YPC were like 3.7, which the much maligned Mark Ingrams was 4.9 and K.Robinsons 4.5(I believe).

4.) The fact that two of these players were undrafted players who were able to be productive within our system speaks volumes for both the system and the player personnel development. We consistently find gems(Galette, K. Stills, Robinson, Morgan) that other teams don't. We'll be fine and 12-4 next year. Relax.

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i think the fact Darren is gone now grrr is an indicator that more than likely PT might have seen his odds improved in regards to possible remaining with saints.

enough adjectives an adverbs in the disclaimer?

I see PT signing an extension at lower cap numbers but more money up front and in pocket.

no way the saints will gamble on protection drew at this point. they already hung him out to dry last year with all the risk taking they did on the OL the past few years. if the do not i say trade drew and do not get him killed

This year the offense let us down for the first time. imagine what might have been if drew had that one or two extra seconds in the pocket on a few key plays in just those handful of games that could have changed everything down the stretch?

hand grenades and horse shoes i know but aint it the simple truth?

first have your best all around back help coach up the young pups
second see if the changes up front work
third then decide
it's that freaking simple folks.
For the love of god and all that is holy this is the grail of football wisdom.

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Which can have a value unto its own.

Seattle rolls on a lot of youth and ignorance. Kapernick was in a Super Bowl before he realized he was in the NFL.

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yeah but they have sold veteran RB back there to help them grow

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Think about that for a second:
Brees
Evans
Colston

We are rock solid on veterans on our side of the ball. I would say more so than those other teams.

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If I were a betting man, which I'm not, but of coare it's a gamble. Open holes up for P.T. I bet he runs as well as Ingram and Robinson, but I would still like a power back for compliments to replace Sproles. We run when we want to run, definatly takes pressure of of Brees with young studs at C and RT.

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not one of them is a RB. not one of these people pick up a blitz for drew. that is the point.