Saints re-sign Zach Strief

03-17-2014, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

According to PFF.

I don't go by what PFF says.

One of my friends is a Ravens fan and he doesn't rate him either. If the Ravens wouldn't give him $5ml a year it shows his worth.

Danno · 03-17-2014, 11:43 AM

Titans signed RT Michael Oher to a four-year, $20 million contract with $9.5 million guaranteed.
We have to believe Ozzie Newsome is chuckling at this one. Oher, 28 in May, never got better during his five-year stint in Baltimore, struggling mightily in spot duty at left tackle and performing at a well-below-average clip on the right side. He graded out as Pro Football Focus' No. 68 tackle in 2013, among 76 qualifiers. Oher was a dead-last 76th in run blocking with eight sacks allowed. He'll replace David Stewart at right tackle in Nashville. For the second consecutive offseason, the Titans are having a head-scratching free agency period under scuffling GM Ruston Webster. (At least they "landed" Charlie Whitehurst.) Mar 14 - 6:37 PM

And from the Ravens board...

LOL - They're bashing Oher already in Tenn and they haven't even seen him yet. Here's some comments on their board. Gotta hand it to them, they know their football.

1. He's a penalty machine. ILMAO

2. He'll never play out his contract. LOL

3. Rotoworld has him ranked at the very bottom for RTs with most sacks
allowed - 8. LOL

4. He has to be better than Stewart last year.

5. The Ravens are laughing over this one.

6. This is the second straight year the Titans had a head scratching
free agent period.

Aren't you glad we have Ozzie? EVen Decosta is better than their guy and he's the one who said WE HAVE OUR BOOKENDS. ILMAO

In a word - TECHNIQUE or lack thereof.

You said it many times, short arms and wing span for LT and feet not fast enough at both positions. Doesn't use hands like a stun gun.

Like others have said, Oher is a super nice guy, and I wish him the best. However, I am glad the Ravens are going in another direction at RT. Oher's technique never improved the entire time he was here, and he physically could not dominate like he did in college. By comparison, Yanda improved steadily(other than being injured), so you can't put that on the coaching staff. As nice as Oher is, he's clearly not the most intelligent guy out there, and the constant penalties at the very worst times, or blown assignments resulting in sacks displayed that.

And there are hundreds more just like these.

Jack Vegas · 03-17-2014, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It is what it is...

Really like the man, but I do so cringe watching the foot work or his assignment location during PT's screens...

No mistake about it, Strief does not look the part of a good OL. He doesn't seem to have muscles at all, he's slow and clumsy. He looks like the guy who serves you at the Taco Bell drive-in at 2 a.m. But he gets the job done because he's smart, tough and country boy strong. I like that in an offensive lineman.

|Mitch| · 03-17-2014, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

No mistake about it, Strief does not look the part of a good OL. He doesn't seem to have muscles at all, he's slow and clumsy. He looks like the guy who serves you at the Taco Bell drive-in at 2 a.m. But he gets the job done because he's smart, tough and country boy strong. I like that in an offensive lineman.

No doubt; I could care-less what he looks like or if he is too slow to get ahead of a screen. He helps keep Drew upright for the most part and that's all that matters

TheOak · 03-17-2014, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Piece from the Baltimore sun

Oher allowed a team-high eight sacks and 42 quarterback hurries this season, according to Pro Football Focus. He had just five penalties this season but is the most frequently penalized player in the NFL since entering the league. He was the last-ranked tackle in the league in run blocking last season, according to Pro Football Focus

Stats, grades, numbers.... Those pesky things do not matter. Some people rely on the untrained eye. ;P

Like Larry the cable guy in a museum of fine art.

papz · 03-17-2014, 12:12 PM

Oher over Strief?

No comment.

You know what I love about this deal besides the fact it's one hell of a bargain, Strief doesn't care. He wanted to remain a Saint and it showed.

SaintLeonard · 03-17-2014, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And yet no one's was knocking on his door as FA began...

It's helpful information, but I wouldn't use PFF as the barometer on a player's resume...

He's back and it's good and we get a couple more years of watching him woof down a Crispy Thin Catfish Poboy on the Big Screen at New Orleans Hamburger and Seafood Company...

Nobody was knocking down his door because he was rejecting other teams (like Miami), not because he isn't a great player.

Another geat signing by Loomis.

saintsfan403 · 03-17-2014, 12:35 PM

BUT GUYS WE HAD NO CAP AND NO MOBILE QB? WHY FOR THEN CAN WE SIGN PLAYERS WITH NO CAP LOL? DOES THIS MEAN ONLY UDFAs FOR SAINTS?

SaintLeonard · 03-17-2014, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

According to PFF.

I don't go by what PFF says.

"Oher allowed a team high 8 sacks"

Doesn't matter if PFF or ESPN is saying that, I don't see how that statement is debatable. Honestly, Oher is only a big name because they made a movie about him. He's not that good of a tackle.

saintfan · 03-17-2014, 12:58 PM

Much to be said for continuity...particularly along the o line as we all know. One less thing and a very good player to boot.

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03-17-2014, 11:34 AM	#41
Threaded by lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by rezburna According to PFF. I don't go by what PFF says. One of my friends is a Ravens fan and he doesn't rate him either. If the Ravens wouldn't give him $5ml a year it shows his worth.
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03-17-2014, 11:43 AM	#42
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Titans signed RT Michael Oher to a four-year, $20 million contract with $9.5 million guaranteed. We have to believe Ozzie Newsome is chuckling at this one. Oher, 28 in May, never got better during his five-year stint in Baltimore, struggling mightily in spot duty at left tackle and performing at a well-below-average clip on the right side. He graded out as Pro Football Focus' No. 68 tackle in 2013, among 76 qualifiers. Oher was a dead-last 76th in run blocking with eight sacks allowed. He'll replace David Stewart at right tackle in Nashville. For the second consecutive offseason, the Titans are having a head-scratching free agency period under scuffling GM Ruston Webster. (At least they "landed" Charlie Whitehurst.) Mar 14 - 6:37 PM And from the Ravens board... LOL - They're bashing Oher already in Tenn and they haven't even seen him yet. Here's some comments on their board. Gotta hand it to them, they know their football. 1. He's a penalty machine. ILMAO 2. He'll never play out his contract. LOL 3. Rotoworld has him ranked at the very bottom for RTs with most sacks allowed - 8. LOL 4. He has to be better than Stewart last year. 5. The Ravens are laughing over this one. 6. This is the second straight year the Titans had a head scratching free agent period. Aren't you glad we have Ozzie? EVen Decosta is better than their guy and he's the one who said WE HAVE OUR BOOKENDS. ILMAO In a word - TECHNIQUE or lack thereof. You said it many times, short arms and wing span for LT and feet not fast enough at both positions. Doesn't use hands like a stun gun. Like others have said, Oher is a super nice guy, and I wish him the best. However, I am glad the Ravens are going in another direction at RT. Oher's technique never improved the entire time he was here, and he physically could not dominate like he did in college. By comparison, Yanda improved steadily(other than being injured), so you can't put that on the coaching staff. As nice as Oher is, he's clearly not the most intelligent guy out there, and the constant penalties at the very worst times, or blown assignments resulting in sacks displayed that. And there are hundreds more just like these.

03-17-2014, 11:48 AM	#43
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by jeanpierre It is what it is... Really like the man, but I do so cringe watching the foot work or his assignment location during PT's screens... No mistake about it, Strief does not look the part of a good OL. He doesn't seem to have muscles at all, he's slow and clumsy. He looks like the guy who serves you at the Taco Bell drive-in at 2 a.m. But he gets the job done because he's smart, tough and country boy strong. I like that in an offensive lineman.
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03-17-2014, 12:03 PM	#44
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by Jack Vegas No mistake about it, Strief does not look the part of a good OL. He doesn't seem to have muscles at all, he's slow and clumsy. He looks like the guy who serves you at the Taco Bell drive-in at 2 a.m. But he gets the job done because he's smart, tough and country boy strong. I like that in an offensive lineman. No doubt; I could care-less what he looks like or if he is too slow to get ahead of a screen. He helps keep Drew upright for the most part and that's all that matters

03-17-2014, 12:08 PM	#45
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by lee909 Piece from the Baltimore sun Oher allowed a team-high eight sacks and 42 quarterback hurries this season, according to Pro Football Focus. He had just five penalties this season but is the most frequently penalized player in the NFL since entering the league. He was the last-ranked tackle in the league in run blocking last season, according to Pro Football Focus Stats, grades, numbers.... Those pesky things do not matter. Some people rely on the untrained eye. ;P Like Larry the cable guy in a museum of fine art. Saintswrath and blackangold like this.

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03-17-2014, 12:12 PM	#46
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Oher over Strief? No comment. You know what I love about this deal besides the fact it's one hell of a bargain, Strief doesn't care. He wanted to remain a Saint and it showed. Danno, Crusader, Saintswrath and 2 others like this.

03-17-2014, 12:31 PM	#47
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by jeanpierre And yet no one's was knocking on his door as FA began... It's helpful information, but I wouldn't use PFF as the barometer on a player's resume... He's back and it's good and we get a couple more years of watching him woof down a Crispy Thin Catfish Poboy on the Big Screen at New Orleans Hamburger and Seafood Company... Nobody was knocking down his door because he was rejecting other teams (like Miami), not because he isn't a great player. Another geat signing by Loomis.

03-17-2014, 12:35 PM	#48
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief BUT GUYS WE HAD NO CAP AND NO MOBILE QB? WHY FOR THEN CAN WE SIGN PLAYERS WITH NO CAP LOL? DOES THIS MEAN ONLY UDFAs FOR SAINTS?

03-17-2014, 12:37 PM	#49
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by rezburna According to PFF. I don't go by what PFF says. "Oher allowed a team high 8 sacks" Doesn't matter if PFF or ESPN is saying that, I don't see how that statement is debatable. Honestly, Oher is only a big name because they made a movie about him. He's not that good of a tackle.

03-17-2014, 12:58 PM	#50
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Much to be said for continuity...particularly along the o line as we all know. One less thing and a very good player to boot. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Danno and stickman like this.

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