Saints re-sign Zach Strief

rezburna · 03-17-2014, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Piece from the Baltimore sun

Oher allowed a team-high eight sacks and 42 quarterback hurries this season, according to Pro Football Focus. He had just five penalties this season but is the most frequently penalized player in the NFL since entering the league. He was the last-ranked tackle in the league in run blocking last season, according to Pro Football Focus

According to PFF.

I don't go by what PFF says.

lee909 · 03-17-2014, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

According to PFF.

I don't go by what PFF says.

One of my friends is a Ravens fan and he doesn't rate him either. If the Ravens wouldn't give him $5ml a year it shows his worth.

SaintLeonard · 03-17-2014, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

According to PFF.

I don't go by what PFF says.

"Oher allowed a team high 8 sacks"

Doesn't matter if PFF or ESPN is saying that, I don't see how that statement is debatable. Honestly, Oher is only a big name because they made a movie about him. He's not that good of a tackle.

rezburna · 03-17-2014, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

"Oher allowed a team high 8 sacks"

Doesn't matter if PFF or ESPN is saying that, I don't see how that statement is debatable. Honestly, Oher is only a big name because they made a movie about him. He's not that good of a tackle.

Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one.

|Mitch| · 03-17-2014, 12:53 PM

Like him or not, no way you would have signed an over-rated Oher for that

EDIT:The Titans are signing Michael Oher to a four-year, $20 million contract with $9.5 million guaranteed

saintsfan1976 · 03-17-2014, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one.

Streif battled a groin injury, suspended head coach and an offseason rife with team ridicule. What was Oher's excuse?

Streif's been a starter for 3 seasons, two of which were above average and the last being his best.

Regardless of favorites, we just resigned a top 10 RT at a great price.

SaintLeonard · 03-17-2014, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one.

I completely agree with you he wasn't that great in 2012. He really turned it around in 2013 though in my opinion.

Danno · 03-17-2014, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one.

OLinemen play longer than most other positions, and he doesn't have as much wear and tear on his body (he was a back-up for 4 or 5 years), and he looked great at 29, so a couple more years shouldn't be a huge problem.

Saintswrath · 03-17-2014, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one.

Whole team even Drew Brees stunk up the field in 2012, no coach, multiple injuries, deplinished Defense thanks mostly to Goodell, i wouldn't put a lot of stock in 2012 at all to judge any players, they're heads were just not in the game, we did fair better with the injuries and without a coach than Falcons did just last year with a few injuries, no suspended players and their entire coaching staff..

papz · 03-17-2014, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one.

You might be confused. That usually applies to running backs. OL usually have a long shelf life.

03-17-2014, 10:26 AM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by lee909 Piece from the Baltimore sun Oher allowed a team-high eight sacks and 42 quarterback hurries this season, according to Pro Football Focus. He had just five penalties this season but is the most frequently penalized player in the NFL since entering the league. He was the last-ranked tackle in the league in run blocking last season, according to Pro Football Focus According to PFF. I don't go by what PFF says.

03-17-2014, 10:34 AM	#2
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by rezburna According to PFF. I don't go by what PFF says. One of my friends is a Ravens fan and he doesn't rate him either. If the Ravens wouldn't give him $5ml a year it shows his worth.

03-17-2014, 11:37 AM	#3
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by rezburna According to PFF. I don't go by what PFF says. "Oher allowed a team high 8 sacks" Doesn't matter if PFF or ESPN is saying that, I don't see how that statement is debatable. Honestly, Oher is only a big name because they made a movie about him. He's not that good of a tackle.

03-17-2014, 12:38 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by SaintLeonard "Oher allowed a team high 8 sacks" Doesn't matter if PFF or ESPN is saying that, I don't see how that statement is debatable. Honestly, Oher is only a big name because they made a movie about him. He's not that good of a tackle. Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one. MarchingOn likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Twitter Like him or not, no way you would have signed an over-rated Oher for that EDIT:The Titans are signing Michael Oher to a four-year, $20 million contract with $9.5 million guaranteed
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by rezburna Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one. Streif battled a groin injury, suspended head coach and an offseason rife with team ridicule. What was Oher's excuse? Streif's been a starter for 3 seasons, two of which were above average and the last being his best. Regardless of favorites, we just resigned a top 10 RT at a great price. papz, ScottF, Saintswrath and 1 others like this.

03-17-2014, 01:02 PM	#7
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by rezburna Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one. I completely agree with you he wasn't that great in 2012. He really turned it around in 2013 though in my opinion.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by rezburna Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one. OLinemen play longer than most other positions, and he doesn't have as much wear and tear on his body (he was a back-up for 4 or 5 years), and he looked great at 29, so a couple more years shouldn't be a huge problem. papz likes this.

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Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by rezburna Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one. Whole team even Drew Brees stunk up the field in 2012, no coach, multiple injuries, deplinished Defense thanks mostly to Goodell, i wouldn't put a lot of stock in 2012 at all to judge any players, they're heads were just not in the game, we did fair better with the injuries and without a coach than Falcons did just last year with a few injuries, no suspended players and their entire coaching staff..

03-17-2014, 01:17 PM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Saints re-sign Zach Strief Originally Posted by rezburna Strief allowed 7 the year before last. To me, he's not that good of a tackle. He's a fan favorite, and I'll concede that he's serviceable, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Not to mention, didn't he just turn 30? 30 isn't usually the best time for elite lineman, let alone an average one. You might be confused. That usually applies to running backs. OL usually have a long shelf life.

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