Who is it ( Draft )

TheOak · 03-22-2014, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Ok... I agree. I'm sorry Danno. I had a rough day. I have a 9 week old baby and the one thing that people never told me is the strain a baby will put on your relationship. I guess I just took my frustration out on you and I apologize for that. As Saints fans we're all a family and what family doesn't fight sometimes?!

Look at it this way, having and raising a child tempers a relationship more than it strains it.

It's very humbling to go to sleep Master of the Universe and wake up to a crying baby and feel helpless.

Take a pause when you feel things getting deep to remind your other half and your self that it's not about y'all anymore. The child needs you two to function like a good offensive line during a screen.

dizzle88 · 03-22-2014, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Look at it this way, having and raising a child tempers a relationship more than it strains it.

It's very humbling to go to sleep Master of the Universe and wake up to a crying baby and feel helpless.

Take a pause when you feel things getting deep to remind your other half and your self that it's not about y'all anymore. The child needs you two to function like a good offensive line during a screen.

Is the baby Pierre Thomas in that example? Lol

ChrisXVI · 03-22-2014, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Look at it this way, having and raising a child tempers a relationship more than it strains it.

It's very humbling to go to sleep Master of the Universe and wake up to a crying baby and feel helpless.

Take a pause when you feel things getting deep to remind your other half and your self that it's not about y'all anymore. The child needs you two to function like a good offensive line during a screen.

Words of wisdom buddy. Nothing will humble a man quite like having a baby LOL. Anyways, enough of that... Back to the topic at hand. I'm really intrigued by the ILB prospects in this draft. I even think some of the designated OLB's like Shazier and Van Noy would be fantastic ILB's if Loomis was interested in upgrading.

jeanpierre · 03-22-2014, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Ok... I agree. I'm sorry Danno. I had a rough day. I have a 9 week old baby and the one thing that people never told me is the strain a baby will put on your relationship. I guess I just took my frustration out on you and I apologize for that. As Saints fans we're all a family and what family doesn't fight sometimes?!

Chris, class post; way to take the high road...

Good to know we have Black & Gold Members such as you...

ChrisXVI · 03-22-2014, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Chris, class post; way to take the high road...

Good to know we have Black & Gold Members such as you...

I was being a jerk. Thank you for the kind words though. Back to the topic though... If we don't draft either Christian Jones or Andrew Jackson as potential ILB's to replace our current guys then I'll be pi$$ed! I read that Rob Ryan was all over Jones at FSU's Pro Day... I love his versatility. Unfortunately he'll probably be drafted before our 2nd round pick. I'll add him to the list with Jean-Baptiste of guys that I wouldn't be mad if we traded up in the 2nd round to get.

TheOak · 03-22-2014, 01:05 PM

Gabe Ikard - top Center that can also play guard.

Gonna need this sort of player to run up the middle.

MarchingOn · 03-22-2014, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Gabe Ikard - top Center that can also play guard.

Gonna need this sort of player to run up the middle.

Don't know this guy but a C/G is a great approach. We've Lelito moving to Center or, if he does not, as our backup to both Guards. So, we're thin.

Also increases flexibility, by definition. Plus, one would expect a C who can play G to be bigger and stronger. Hate seeing our C pushed back into Bree's step-up lane.

If we get a pure Center, then he should be a great one; otherwise, go for C/G.

TheOak · 03-24-2014, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by MarchingOn

Don't know this guy but a C/G is a great approach. We've Lelito moving to Center or, if he does not, as our backup to both Guards. So, we're thin.

Also increases flexibility, by definition. Plus, one would expect a C who can play G to be bigger and stronger. Hate seeing our C pushed back into Bree's step-up lane.

If we get a pure Center, then he should be a great one; otherwise, go for C/G.

In the spirit of one thing feeds off of another.. If our passing game feeds off of our ability to run the ball, then our screen game feeds off of our ability to run the ball up the middle.

C/G gaps are where that happens and if there is enough threat to L/R C running it opens up the outside and the screen.

For me personally our biggest issue on the OL last season was worrying about Brown, he didn't have a lot of horrible games but when he did it was bad... I am also not entirely sure he got a fair shot from the fans from the get go.

After that we were plagued with players having to play hurt on the Right side.. Both Evans and Streif were nicked up a few weeks. We lack depth on the Offensive Line, look at the offensive line depth chart now and the the start of last season. We have been way too shallow, right now we have no back ups (with experience) for C/LG/RG/LT. Go back to 10/1/2013 and lelito was everyones back up.
Ourlads' NFL Depth Chart Archive

As unattractive as the proposition sounds, I think we pick up at least 2 Offensive linemen in the draft. A C/G and a T/G or a C and a T/G.

I also think in a way our Screen game effects our short passing and running game but that is a different discussion. The threat of the Screen makes LBs stay home and that puts them right there in the short middle passing and running lanes.

Rugby Saint II · 03-22-2014, 02:49 PM

The one guy I couldn't live without is that guy from over there. We were talking about him in another thread.

jnormand · 03-22-2014, 03:24 PM

We need a CB and I hope we use our first pick on a good one. Like D'squarius Green Jr or The Player Formally Known As Mouse Cop. Maybe even Jackmarius Tacktheritrix.

03-22-2014, 01:19 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Who is it ( Draft ) Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Ok... I agree. I'm sorry Danno. I had a rough day. I have a 9 week old baby and the one thing that people never told me is the strain a baby will put on your relationship. I guess I just took my frustration out on you and I apologize for that. As Saints fans we're all a family and what family doesn't fight sometimes?! Look at it this way, having and raising a child tempers a relationship more than it strains it. It's very humbling to go to sleep Master of the Universe and wake up to a crying baby and feel helpless. Take a pause when you feel things getting deep to remind your other half and your self that it's not about y'all anymore. The child needs you two to function like a good offensive line during a screen. hagan714, mleg1972, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

03-22-2014, 02:02 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: Who is it ( Draft ) Originally Posted by TheOak Look at it this way, having and raising a child tempers a relationship more than it strains it. It's very humbling to go to sleep Master of the Universe and wake up to a crying baby and feel helpless. Take a pause when you feel things getting deep to remind your other half and your self that it's not about y'all anymore. The child needs you two to function like a good offensive line during a screen. Is the baby Pierre Thomas in that example? Lol mleg1972 likes this.

03-22-2014, 02:09 PM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Who is it ( Draft ) Originally Posted by TheOak Look at it this way, having and raising a child tempers a relationship more than it strains it. It's very humbling to go to sleep Master of the Universe and wake up to a crying baby and feel helpless. Take a pause when you feel things getting deep to remind your other half and your self that it's not about y'all anymore. The child needs you two to function like a good offensive line during a screen. Words of wisdom buddy. Nothing will humble a man quite like having a baby LOL. Anyways, enough of that... Back to the topic at hand. I'm really intrigued by the ILB prospects in this draft. I even think some of the designated OLB's like Shazier and Van Noy would be fantastic ILB's if Loomis was interested in upgrading. TheOak likes this.

03-22-2014, 05:35 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Who is it ( Draft ) Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Ok... I agree. I'm sorry Danno. I had a rough day. I have a 9 week old baby and the one thing that people never told me is the strain a baby will put on your relationship. I guess I just took my frustration out on you and I apologize for that. As Saints fans we're all a family and what family doesn't fight sometimes?! Chris, class post; way to take the high road... Good to know we have Black & Gold Members such as you... hagan714 likes this.

03-22-2014, 07:57 PM	#5
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Who is it ( Draft ) Originally Posted by jeanpierre Chris, class post; way to take the high road... Good to know we have Black & Gold Members such as you... I was being a jerk. Thank you for the kind words though. Back to the topic though... If we don't draft either Christian Jones or Andrew Jackson as potential ILB's to replace our current guys then I'll be pi$$ed! I read that Rob Ryan was all over Jones at FSU's Pro Day... I love his versatility. Unfortunately he'll probably be drafted before our 2nd round pick. I'll add him to the list with Jean-Baptiste of guys that I wouldn't be mad if we traded up in the 2nd round to get.
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03-22-2014, 01:05 PM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Who is it ( Draft ) Gabe Ikard - top Center that can also play guard. Gonna need this sort of player to run up the middle. hagan714 and MarchingOn like this.

03-22-2014, 05:59 PM	#7
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Who is it ( Draft ) Originally Posted by TheOak Gabe Ikard - top Center that can also play guard. Gonna need this sort of player to run up the middle. Don't know this guy but a C/G is a great approach. We've Lelito moving to Center or, if he does not, as our backup to both Guards. So, we're thin. Also increases flexibility, by definition. Plus, one would expect a C who can play G to be bigger and stronger. Hate seeing our C pushed back into Bree's step-up lane. If we get a pure Center, then he should be a great one; otherwise, go for C/G.

03-24-2014, 06:44 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Who is it ( Draft ) Originally Posted by MarchingOn Don't know this guy but a C/G is a great approach. We've Lelito moving to Center or, if he does not, as our backup to both Guards. So, we're thin. Also increases flexibility, by definition. Plus, one would expect a C who can play G to be bigger and stronger. Hate seeing our C pushed back into Bree's step-up lane. If we get a pure Center, then he should be a great one; otherwise, go for C/G. In the spirit of one thing feeds off of another.. If our passing game feeds off of our ability to run the ball, then our screen game feeds off of our ability to run the ball up the middle. C/G gaps are where that happens and if there is enough threat to L/R C running it opens up the outside and the screen. For me personally our biggest issue on the OL last season was worrying about Brown, he didn't have a lot of horrible games but when he did it was bad... I am also not entirely sure he got a fair shot from the fans from the get go. After that we were plagued with players having to play hurt on the Right side.. Both Evans and Streif were nicked up a few weeks. We lack depth on the Offensive Line, look at the offensive line depth chart now and the the start of last season. We have been way too shallow, right now we have no back ups (with experience) for C/LG/RG/LT. Go back to 10/1/2013 and lelito was everyones back up. Ourlads' NFL Depth Chart Archive As unattractive as the proposition sounds, I think we pick up at least 2 Offensive linemen in the draft. A C/G and a T/G or a C and a T/G. I also think in a way our Screen game effects our short passing and running game but that is a different discussion. The threat of the Screen makes LBs stay home and that puts them right there in the short middle passing and running lanes.
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03-22-2014, 02:49 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,182	Re: Who is it ( Draft ) The one guy I couldn't live without is that guy from over there. We were talking about him in another thread.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,774	Re: Who is it ( Draft ) We need a CB and I hope we use our first pick on a good one. Like D'squarius Green Jr or The Player Formally Known As Mouse Cop. Maybe even Jackmarius Tacktheritrix. ChrisXVI likes this.

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