2014: Who will lead the Saints in rushing?

Cruize · 03-29-2014, 03:32 PM

I love Ingram. If healthy, he can get the job done. But, Robinson is a more dynamic back. While I love Thomas as well, I fear his return will just continue the horrible one play per back rotation. If the Saints truly want a balanced attack, hand the ball off to Robinson/Ingran and take them out when they raise their hand. Otherwise, it's just lip service and more of the same.

billyt81 · 03-29-2014, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Ingram will get the most carries and if the O line play how they did in the playoffs, ingram will lead us in rushing

Originally Posted by Cruize

I love Ingram. If healthy, he can get the job done. But, Robinson is a more dynamic back. While I love Thomas as well, I fear his return will just continue the horrible one play per back rotation. If the Saints truly want a balanced attack, hand the ball off to Robinson/Ingran and take them out when they raise their hand. Otherwise, it's just lip service and more of the same.

All three are very similar. They might all three tie in a foot race and no more than. 15 lbs seperates one from another. I think Ingram has the most breakaway speed but Robinsin runs with more reckless abandon like Ivory did. Pierre is great at finishing runs and squeezing our every yd he can. TB tailbacks performed great behind this new FB Lorig. The back who can start turning some runs into 30+ yd runs will be the one. My guess-Robinson, but Ingram has the most talent and Thomas the most heart is well see.

TheOak · 03-31-2014, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by billyt81

All three are very similar. They might all three tie in a foot race and no more than. 15 lbs seperates one from another. I think Ingram has the most breakaway speed but Robinsin runs with more reckless abandon like Ivory did. Pierre is great at finishing runs and squeezing our every yd he can. TB tailbacks performed great behind this new FB Lorig. The back who can start turning some runs into 30+ yd runs will be the one. My guess-Robinson, but Ingram has the most talent and Thomas the most heart is well see.

Having watched all 3 last season and looking at their ProDay/Combine numbers other than height, wt, and 40yd (things that do not really define a RB), they are not all that alike.

Robinson: Has shown better vision and is more elusive, I wouldn't call him reckless.. more runs angry.
5'10"
206 lbs
4.76 40yd
1.54 10yd
6.88 3 Cone

Thomas: Longer Stride, great vision but doesn't cut as well, and powers through the end of his run. Best screen back.
5'11"
209
4.65 40yd
1.57 10yd
7.12 3 cone

Mark Ingram: Better acceleration after the line of scrimmage but has yet to show the vision or patience that the other two have, which is what gets a RB consistently passed the LoS.
5'9"
215
4.53 40yd
1.54 10yd
7.13 3cone

2013 YPC
Ingram -4.9*
Robinson - 4.1
Thomas - 3.7

I think it is important to note that with out the Dallas game, Ingram's number is drastically different and tied to 1 game more so than the other two RBs.

Dallas stats removed:
Ingram 3.7 YPC.
Thomas 3.5 YPC
Robinson didn't play against Dallas.

Danno · 03-31-2014, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

2013 YPC
Ingram -4.9*
Robinson - 4.1
Thomas - 3.7

I think it is important to note that with out the Dallas game, Ingram's number is drastically different and tied to 1 game more so than the other two RBs.

Dallas stats removed:
Ingram 3.7 YPC.
Thomas 3.5 YPC
Robinson didn't play against Dallas.

Not to nitpick but if you remove the Arizona game from Robinson's stats he averages 3.65 YPC

If you remove the best game by all 3 of them you have...
Ingram 3.77
Robinson 3.65
Thomas 3.47

TheOak · 03-31-2014, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Not to nitpick but if you remove the Arizona game from Robinson's stats he averages 3.65 YPC

If you remove the best game by all 3 of them you have...

Ingram 3.77

Robinson 3.65

Thomas 3.47

How are you defining "best game"? Total yards, yards/carry?

halloween 65 · 03-31-2014, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Having watched all 3 last season and looking at their ProDay/Combine numbers other than height, wt, and 40yd (things that do not really define a RB), they are not all that alike.

Robinson: Has shown better vision and is more elusive, I wouldn't call him reckless.. more runs angry.
5'10"
206 lbs
4.76 40yd
1.54 10yd
6.88 3 Cone

Thomas: Longer Stride, great vision but doesn't cut as well, and powers through the end of his run. Best screen back.
5'11"
209
4.65 40yd
1.57 10yd
7.12 3 cone

Mark Ingram: Better acceleration after the line of scrimmage but has yet to show the vision or patience that the other two have, which is what gets a RB consistently passed the LoS.
5'9"
215
4.53 40yd
1.54 10yd
7.13 3cone

2013 YPC
Ingram -4.9*
Robinson - 4.1
Thomas - 3.7

I think it is important to note that with out the Dallas game, Ingram's number is drastically different and tied to 1 game more so than the other two RBs.

Dallas stats removed:
Ingram 3.7 YPC.
Thomas 3.5 YPC
Robinson didn't play against Dallas.

This is a reason I am not a big stat fan 1 or 2 good games can blow the stats up or 1 or 2 bad games lower the overall body of work also. Big difference without the Dallas game.

lee909 · 04-05-2014, 03:29 AM

So what you are saying is if Drew throws multiple TDs and doesn't throw multiple INT we win!.

Somebody tell coach quick

CheramieIII · 04-06-2014, 07:57 PM

Ingram but not by much over PT Cadet will be Sproles and KRob will fill in

Marlboro Man · 04-15-2014, 05:29 PM

Hmmmm, let me think....[B]SMACK!!!, Don't think!! Feeeeeeel!!, it is like a finger, pointing the way to the MOOOONNNN....[B]SMACK!!!, Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss alll that heavenly glooooorry! My guess is um, a RB????? Oh, ok, Robinson.

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03-29-2014, 03:32 PM	#1
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: 2014: Who will lead the Saints in rushing? I love Ingram. If healthy, he can get the job done. But, Robinson is a more dynamic back. While I love Thomas as well, I fear his return will just continue the horrible one play per back rotation. If the Saints truly want a balanced attack, hand the ball off to Robinson/Ingran and take them out when they raise their hand. Otherwise, it's just lip service and more of the same.
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03-29-2014, 11:16 PM	#2
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: 2014: Who will lead the Saints in rushing? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Ingram will get the most carries and if the O line play how they did in the playoffs, ingram will lead us in rushing Originally Posted by Cruize I love Ingram. If healthy, he can get the job done. But, Robinson is a more dynamic back. While I love Thomas as well, I fear his return will just continue the horrible one play per back rotation. If the Saints truly want a balanced attack, hand the ball off to Robinson/Ingran and take them out when they raise their hand. Otherwise, it's just lip service and more of the same. All three are very similar. They might all three tie in a foot race and no more than. 15 lbs seperates one from another. I think Ingram has the most breakaway speed but Robinsin runs with more reckless abandon like Ivory did. Pierre is great at finishing runs and squeezing our every yd he can. TB tailbacks performed great behind this new FB Lorig. The back who can start turning some runs into 30+ yd runs will be the one. My guess-Robinson, but Ingram has the most talent and Thomas the most heart is well see.

03-31-2014, 10:30 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: 2014: Who will lead the Saints in rushing? Originally Posted by billyt81 All three are very similar. They might all three tie in a foot race and no more than. 15 lbs seperates one from another. I think Ingram has the most breakaway speed but Robinsin runs with more reckless abandon like Ivory did. Pierre is great at finishing runs and squeezing our every yd he can. TB tailbacks performed great behind this new FB Lorig. The back who can start turning some runs into 30+ yd runs will be the one. My guess-Robinson, but Ingram has the most talent and Thomas the most heart is well see. Having watched all 3 last season and looking at their ProDay/Combine numbers other than height, wt, and 40yd (things that do not really define a RB), they are not all that alike. Robinson: Has shown better vision and is more elusive, I wouldn't call him reckless.. more runs angry. 5'10" 206 lbs 4.76 40yd 1.54 10yd 6.88 3 Cone Thomas: Longer Stride, great vision but doesn't cut as well, and powers through the end of his run. Best screen back. 5'11" 209 4.65 40yd 1.57 10yd 7.12 3 cone Mark Ingram: Better acceleration after the line of scrimmage but has yet to show the vision or patience that the other two have, which is what gets a RB consistently passed the LoS. 5'9" 215 4.53 40yd 1.54 10yd 7.13 3cone 2013 YPC Ingram -4.9* Robinson - 4.1 Thomas - 3.7 I think it is important to note that with out the Dallas game, Ingram's number is drastically different and tied to 1 game more so than the other two RBs. Dallas stats removed: Ingram 3.7 YPC. Thomas 3.5 YPC Robinson didn't play against Dallas. halloween 65 likes this.
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03-31-2014, 10:48 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: 2014: Who will lead the Saints in rushing? Originally Posted by TheOak 2013 YPC Ingram -4.9* Robinson - 4.1 Thomas - 3.7 I think it is important to note that with out the Dallas game, Ingram's number is drastically different and tied to 1 game more so than the other two RBs. Dallas stats removed: Ingram 3.7 YPC. Thomas 3.5 YPC Robinson didn't play against Dallas. Not to nitpick but if you remove the Arizona game from Robinson's stats he averages 3.65 YPC If you remove the best game by all 3 of them you have... Ingram 3.77 Robinson 3.65 Thomas 3.47

03-31-2014, 10:51 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: 2014: Who will lead the Saints in rushing? Originally Posted by Danno Not to nitpick but if you remove the Arizona game from Robinson's stats he averages 3.65 YPC If you remove the best game by all 3 of them you have... Ingram 3.77 Robinson 3.65 Thomas 3.47 How are you defining "best game"? Total yards, yards/carry?

03-31-2014, 10:48 AM	#6
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2014: Who will lead the Saints in rushing? Originally Posted by TheOak Having watched all 3 last season and looking at their ProDay/Combine numbers other than height, wt, and 40yd (things that do not really define a RB), they are not all that alike. Robinson: Has shown better vision and is more elusive, I wouldn't call him reckless.. more runs angry. 5'10" 206 lbs 4.76 40yd 1.54 10yd 6.88 3 Cone Thomas: Longer Stride, great vision but doesn't cut as well, and powers through the end of his run. Best screen back. 5'11" 209 4.65 40yd 1.57 10yd 7.12 3 cone Mark Ingram: Better acceleration after the line of scrimmage but has yet to show the vision or patience that the other two have, which is what gets a RB consistently passed the LoS. 5'9" 215 4.53 40yd 1.54 10yd 7.13 3cone 2013 YPC Ingram -4.9* Robinson - 4.1 Thomas - 3.7 I think it is important to note that with out the Dallas game, Ingram's number is drastically different and tied to 1 game more so than the other two RBs. Dallas stats removed: Ingram 3.7 YPC. Thomas 3.5 YPC Robinson didn't play against Dallas. This is a reason I am not a big stat fan 1 or 2 good games can blow the stats up or 1 or 2 bad games lower the overall body of work also. Big difference without the Dallas game.

04-05-2014, 03:29 AM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2014: Who will lead the Saints in rushing? So what you are saying is if Drew throws multiple TDs and doesn't throw multiple INT we win!. Somebody tell coach quick

04-06-2014, 07:57 PM	#8
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2014: Who will lead the Saints in rushing? Ingram but not by much over PT Cadet will be Sproles and KRob will fill in

04-15-2014, 05:29 PM	#9
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: 2014: Who will lead the Saints in rushing? Hmmmm, let me think....[B]SMACK!!!, Don't think!! Feeeeeeel!!, it is like a finger, pointing the way to the MOOOONNNN....[B]SMACK!!!, Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss alll that heavenly glooooorry! My guess is um, a RB????? Oh, ok, Robinson.

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