Saints Trade Graham

exile · 04-01-2014, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

WE CANNOT TRADE HIM WITHOUT EATING THE WHOLE OF HIS TAG MONEY WHEN HE SIGNS IT. WE CANNOT TRADE SOMEBODY NOT UNDER A CONTRACT.

Party Pooper.

hagan714 · 04-01-2014, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

WE CANNOT TRADE HIM WITHOUT EATING THE WHOLE OF HIS TAG MONEY WHEN HE SIGNS IT. WE CANNOT TRADE SOMEBODY NOT UNDER A CONTRACT.

ok one more time.

Oakland calls and wants the trade.
Oakland calls Jimmy agent and a contract agreement can be reached
the saints the agent and the raiders sit down
jimmy is packing his bags and he is out of here

It can be done - it has been done and it will continue to be done.

we do not need to eat anything

Marlboro Man · 04-01-2014, 01:27 PM

The only thing that eases the stress from this thread is Oak's avatar.

The Dude · 04-01-2014, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Even know we could get a lot more this would not make me upset. JG is a stud but the Saints were great without him and we could add 3 more pieces and free up cap space......

I'd take that deal in a split second if 2 of those picks were a first and the 3rd a second.

TheOak · 04-01-2014, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

He has not signed his contract.

Then you have nothing to trade. The Saints do not have any ownership in Jimmy Graham right now, they just have an option to match a contract with another team.

I will try to make this very simple.

Jimmy Graham is a Free Agent 1st with a Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2nd.
We have absolutely nothing to trade until Jimmy Graham Signs something.
All the Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag does is allow the Saints the option to match any offer that Jimmy graham and another team agree upon.

The Saints, Saints Front Office, Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton, Drew Brees, no one with in the Saints organization is or will be involved with any agreement between Jimmy Graham and another team UNTIL Jimmy signs an offer sheet.

Once the sheet is signed the Saints either match it or wait for the league to give them 2 First Round Draft picks.

In order for the Saints to have anything to trade Jimmy has to sign his FT or a contract of some sort. A FT will come with 7m in dead money to trade and a long term deal will come with a whole lot more dead money, because Jimmy isnt signing a long term deal unless it has a nice signing bonus.

BTW.. I am not picking on you, your post was the one at the bottom when i decided to reply.

To show you what interest the Saints own in Jimmy Graham right now, if the season starts when I click post, Jimmy Graham could not take the field for the Saints. He is not under any contract.

TheOak · 04-01-2014, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

ok one more time.

Oakland calls and wants the trade.
Oakland calls Jimmy agent and a contract agreement can be reached
the saints the agent and the raiders sit down
jimmy is packing his bags and he is out of here

It can be done - it has been done and it will continue to be done.

we do not need to eat anything

No Sir. The Saints are not involved in any table meeting between Jimmy Graham and Oakland.. I stated that when you tried the scenario with Houston.

It has NEVER been done with a player not under contract.
The Saints have nothing to trade as there is no contract between the Saints and Jimmy Graham presently

SmashMouth · 04-01-2014, 02:12 PM

CheramieIII · 04-01-2014, 02:42 PM

I actually tried to erase the title with a pencil when I saw it

Halo · 04-01-2014, 02:44 PM

skymike · 04-01-2014, 03:06 PM

LOL.
I knew immediately, pretty much, but then, you did make me look.
fun stuff!

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Trade Graham Originally Posted by lee909 WE CANNOT TRADE HIM WITHOUT EATING THE WHOLE OF HIS TAG MONEY WHEN HE SIGNS IT. WE CANNOT TRADE SOMEBODY NOT UNDER A CONTRACT. ok one more time. Oakland calls and wants the trade. Oakland calls Jimmy agent and a contract agreement can be reached the saints the agent and the raiders sit down jimmy is packing his bags and he is out of here It can be done - it has been done and it will continue to be done. we do not need to eat anything
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Saints Trade Graham Originally Posted by voodooido Even know we could get a lot more this would not make me upset. JG is a stud but the Saints were great without him and we could add 3 more pieces and free up cap space...... I'd take that deal in a split second if 2 of those picks were a first and the 3rd a second.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Saints Trade Graham Originally Posted by voodooido He has not signed his contract. Then you have nothing to trade. The Saints do not have any ownership in Jimmy Graham right now, they just have an option to match a contract with another team. I will try to make this very simple. Jimmy Graham is a Free Agent 1st with a Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2nd. We have absolutely nothing to trade until Jimmy Graham Signs something. All the Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag does is allow the Saints the option to match any offer that Jimmy graham and another team agree upon. The Saints, Saints Front Office, Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton, Drew Brees, no one with in the Saints organization is or will be involved with any agreement between Jimmy Graham and another team UNTIL Jimmy signs an offer sheet. Once the sheet is signed the Saints either match it or wait for the league to give them 2 First Round Draft picks. In order for the Saints to have anything to trade Jimmy has to sign his FT or a contract of some sort. A FT will come with 7m in dead money to trade and a long term deal will come with a whole lot more dead money, because Jimmy isnt signing a long term deal unless it has a nice signing bonus. BTW.. I am not picking on you, your post was the one at the bottom when i decided to reply. To show you what interest the Saints own in Jimmy Graham right now, if the season starts when I click post, Jimmy Graham could not take the field for the Saints. He is not under any contract.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Saints Trade Graham Originally Posted by hagan714 ok one more time. Oakland calls and wants the trade. Oakland calls Jimmy agent and a contract agreement can be reached the saints the agent and the raiders sit down jimmy is packing his bags and he is out of here It can be done - it has been done and it will continue to be done. we do not need to eat anything No Sir. The Saints are not involved in any table meeting between Jimmy Graham and Oakland.. I stated that when you tried the scenario with Houston. It has NEVER been done with a player not under contract. The Saints have nothing to trade as there is no contract between the Saints and Jimmy Graham presently

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