Lee, Beckham, Landry among WR options

04-09-2014, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Well, the odds are in your favor. Most quarterback prospects bust out anyways.

Always nice to see a fellow Tiger fan rooting for their own.

I never liked Mettenberger at LSU. I can't lie to you. So I won't even pretend like I'm rooting for him or care about how his career ends up. If he turns out to be good, that's good for him, but he's not my favorite guy to come through LSU. I had two former team mates who played for LSU. Richard and Travis Dickson. I was realistic about them too, although I rooted for them extra hard. That's just me.

rezburna · 04-09-2014, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Jarvis runs a 4.58 at the Pro Day. I'd love to have him in the third I it's possible. He deserves to go higher but who knows.

4.58? Good enough for me.

papz · 04-09-2014, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I never liked Mettenberger at LSU. I can't lie to you. So I won't even pretend like I'm rooting for him or care about how his career ends up. If he turns out to be good, that's good for him, but he's not my favorite guy to come through LSU. I had two former team mates who played for LSU. Richard and Travis Dickson. I was realistic about them too, although I rooted for them extra hard. That's just me.

And that's your prerogative. I can't make you like him. While I can agree with the criticism of his game, I just choose not to dwell on the negatives. In one year under Cam Cameron, he became an exponentially better quarterback. Just imagine if he had another season or two under Cam's guidance. There's a reason why he's picking up steam... but you can choose to ignore it.

Also while you question whether or not some may be looking at him through rose colored glasses...

I never liked Mettenberger at LSU. I can't lie to you.

...one could question whether or not you are using your bias towards him.

Vrillon82 · 04-09-2014, 08:11 PM

Beckham is one of those guys I want much like I wanted Percy Harvin some years ago, but probably minus all the injuries and such.

K Major · 04-09-2014, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Jarvis runs a 4.58 at the Pro Day. I'd love to have him in the third I it's possible. He deserves to go higher but who knows.

Nice to see Jarvis improved on his Pro day. He will never be confused as a burner but he has great hands and will go across the middle with no fear.

I still think he is a 2nd day pick as most draft experts have predicted. I'm pulling for him wherever he lands.

exile · 04-09-2014, 08:31 PM

I would take Landry with #27. Now do you see why I'm not an NFL GM?

rezburna · 04-09-2014, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by papz

And that's your prerogative. I can't make you like him. While I can agree with the criticism of his game, I just choose not to dwell on the negatives. In one year under Cam Cameron, he became an exponentially better quarterback. Just imagine if he had another season or two under Cam's guidance. There's a reason why he's picking up steam... but you can choose to ignore it.

Also while you question whether or not some may be looking at him through rose colored glasses...

...one could question whether or not you are using your bias towards him.

I am extremely biased towards him. But my bias is that I watched him his first year, he was garbage. Watched him his second year, he was better, but inconsistent as hell so he never won me over. So yeah, I don't like him, and it can be considered bias, but it's because I don't like his play. That's why I don't like him. Not for no reason. I didn't like Jordan Jefferson. I didn't like Matt Flynn. I liked Jamarcus his senior year, and I loved Ryan Perriloux. This is performance bias.

Question is, you think we should draft him and try to develop him? I can see the attraction to him. I just don't believe in him. But if you do, tell me why. Tell me what sells you outside of the Cam Cameron thing.

papz · 04-09-2014, 08:52 PM

No I don't think we should draft and develop him. I don't see him as a fit for our offense. I'm an Aaron Murray guy myself... I think he's tailor made for our offense. Mettenberger is being linked to the Vikings and I see how he fits into Norv Turner's offense. He has a cannon for an arm and has prototypical size. He's capable of making all the throws and not afraid to step up in the pocket and take a big hit. His big issue with me has always been his ability to harness his big arm and to improve on his touch passes. He still has a ways to go and would probably take a few years of good coaching before he's able to make an impact for anyone. Consistency is definitely an issue but the same can be said about the majority of young quarterbacks that enter the NFL every year... he's no different. All of these guys are far from a finished product.

I think that should kill any perceived homer-ism I might have being an LSU guy.

rezburna · 04-09-2014, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by papz

No I don't think we should draft and develop him. I don't see him as a fit for our offense. I'm an Aaron Murray guy myself... I think he's tailor made for our offense. Mettenberger is being linked to the Vikings and I see how he fits into Norv Turner's offense. He has a cannon for an arm and has prototypical size. He's capable of making all the throws and not afraid to step up in the pocket and take a big hit. His big issue with me has always been his ability to harness his big arm and to improve on his touch passes. He still has a ways to go and would probably take a few years of good coaching before he's able to make an impact for anyone. Consistency is definitely an issue but the same can be said about the majority of young quarterbacks that enter the NFL every year... he's no different. All of these guys are far from a finished product.

I think that should kill any perceived homer-ism I might have being an LSU guy.

I'm feeling Murray. Like you said, he's not ready yet, but I can remember at some point in his career they thought he'd be a #1 pick. We're pretty much on the same page. Why are we even debating? Smh.

voodooido · 04-09-2014, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Every game. That's my team. How was he the year before last? Garbage right? I saw plenty of that flash this past year too.

I have season tickets. I have watched every home game the past ten years up close. 2 years ago Mett had a OC that was trash. Last year we got a OC from the NFL which helped Mett big time. Why? Because he is a typical NFL QB. Is he ready to start now...no. Give him 3 years behind Brees and watch what happens.

04-09-2014, 07:47 PM	#21
Threaded by rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by papz Well, the odds are in your favor. Most quarterback prospects bust out anyways. Always nice to see a fellow Tiger fan rooting for their own. I never liked Mettenberger at LSU. I can't lie to you. So I won't even pretend like I'm rooting for him or care about how his career ends up. If he turns out to be good, that's good for him, but he's not my favorite guy to come through LSU. I had two former team mates who played for LSU. Richard and Travis Dickson. I was realistic about them too, although I rooted for them extra hard. That's just me.
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04-09-2014, 07:49 PM	#22
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Lee, Beckham, Landry among WR options Originally Posted by papz Jarvis runs a 4.58 at the Pro Day. I'd love to have him in the third I it's possible. He deserves to go higher but who knows. 4.58? Good enough for me.

04-09-2014, 08:08 PM	#23
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Lee, Beckham, Landry among WR options Originally Posted by rezburna I never liked Mettenberger at LSU. I can't lie to you. So I won't even pretend like I'm rooting for him or care about how his career ends up. If he turns out to be good, that's good for him, but he's not my favorite guy to come through LSU. I had two former team mates who played for LSU. Richard and Travis Dickson. I was realistic about them too, although I rooted for them extra hard. That's just me. And that's your prerogative. I can't make you like him. While I can agree with the criticism of his game, I just choose not to dwell on the negatives. In one year under Cam Cameron, he became an exponentially better quarterback. Just imagine if he had another season or two under Cam's guidance. There's a reason why he's picking up steam... but you can choose to ignore it. Also while you question whether or not some may be looking at him through rose colored glasses... I never liked Mettenberger at LSU. I can't lie to you. ...one could question whether or not you are using your bias towards him.
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04-09-2014, 08:11 PM	#24
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Lee, Beckham, Landry among WR options Beckham is one of those guys I want much like I wanted Percy Harvin some years ago, but probably minus all the injuries and such.
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04-09-2014, 08:27 PM	#25
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lee, Beckham, Landry among WR options Originally Posted by papz Jarvis runs a 4.58 at the Pro Day. I'd love to have him in the third I it's possible. He deserves to go higher but who knows. Nice to see Jarvis improved on his Pro day. He will never be confused as a burner but he has great hands and will go across the middle with no fear. I still think he is a 2nd day pick as most draft experts have predicted. I'm pulling for him wherever he lands.

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04-09-2014, 08:31 PM	#26
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Lee, Beckham, Landry among WR options I would take Landry with #27. Now do you see why I'm not an NFL GM?
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04-09-2014, 08:52 PM	#28
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Lee, Beckham, Landry among WR options No I don't think we should draft and develop him. I don't see him as a fit for our offense. I'm an Aaron Murray guy myself... I think he's tailor made for our offense. Mettenberger is being linked to the Vikings and I see how he fits into Norv Turner's offense. He has a cannon for an arm and has prototypical size. He's capable of making all the throws and not afraid to step up in the pocket and take a big hit. His big issue with me has always been his ability to harness his big arm and to improve on his touch passes. He still has a ways to go and would probably take a few years of good coaching before he's able to make an impact for anyone. Consistency is definitely an issue but the same can be said about the majority of young quarterbacks that enter the NFL every year... he's no different. All of these guys are far from a finished product. I think that should kill any perceived homer-ism I might have being an LSU guy.
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04-09-2014, 10:50 PM	#29
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Lee, Beckham, Landry among WR options Originally Posted by papz No I don't think we should draft and develop him. I don't see him as a fit for our offense. I'm an Aaron Murray guy myself... I think he's tailor made for our offense. Mettenberger is being linked to the Vikings and I see how he fits into Norv Turner's offense. He has a cannon for an arm and has prototypical size. He's capable of making all the throws and not afraid to step up in the pocket and take a big hit. His big issue with me has always been his ability to harness his big arm and to improve on his touch passes. He still has a ways to go and would probably take a few years of good coaching before he's able to make an impact for anyone. Consistency is definitely an issue but the same can be said about the majority of young quarterbacks that enter the NFL every year... he's no different. All of these guys are far from a finished product. I think that should kill any perceived homer-ism I might have being an LSU guy. I'm feeling Murray. Like you said, he's not ready yet, but I can remember at some point in his career they thought he'd be a #1 pick. We're pretty much on the same page. Why are we even debating? Smh. Joker likes this.

04-09-2014, 11:22 PM	#30
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Lee, Beckham, Landry among WR options Originally Posted by rezburna Every game. That's my team. How was he the year before last? Garbage right? I saw plenty of that flash this past year too. I have season tickets. I have watched every home game the past ten years up close. 2 years ago Mett had a OC that was trash. Last year we got a OC from the NFL which helped Mett big time. Why? Because he is a typical NFL QB. Is he ready to start now...no. Give him 3 years behind Brees and watch what happens.
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