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Danno 04-09-2014 03:14 PM

Bunkley Restructures, paycut
 

Danno 04-09-2014 03:15 PM

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Looks like a pretty huge cut to me

ChrisXVI 04-09-2014 03:18 PM

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That was inevitable. Surprised he took less money for this year but that's awesome!

NewDeal 04-09-2014 03:21 PM

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Big pay cut. He must want that championship.

dizzle88 04-09-2014 03:31 PM

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Glad he's a team player, solid run stuffer, he and john jenkins formed a good rotation

arsaint 04-09-2014 03:32 PM

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Welcome to Magic Kingdom.

The star of the (salary cap) show is as always - Mickey!

papz 04-09-2014 03:42 PM

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He saw the writing on the wall. Big John Jenkins and Hicks are the starters now... can't pay a backup 4 million dollars.

Crusader 04-09-2014 03:55 PM

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Somewhere a Falcons fan are reaching for his medication.

ChrisXVI 04-09-2014 03:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 587901)
Somewhere a Falcons fan are reaching for his medication.


The NFL needs to investigate... The saints are clearly cheating lol.

ScottF 04-09-2014 04:00 PM

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Not just a restructure, but less (way less) money.
Loomis is a genius, and give BB credit for knowing his value. Little strange that Bunkley gave of $3.5 this year- he was holding all the cards

the countdown for the Graham deal is on

Jack Vegas 04-09-2014 04:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NewDeal (Post 587891)
Big pay cut. He must want that championship.

He's still getting his money upfront, it's just not part of his base salary anymore. He's taking $2.85 million lump sum as signing bonus. I wouldn't mind having those kinds of headaches.

ScottF 04-09-2014 04:02 PM

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a little more info:
New Orleans Saints restructure defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley's contract | NOLA.com

Boutte 04-09-2014 04:02 PM

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Glad we worked something out. Bunkley is a very good NT.

Jack Vegas 04-09-2014 04:06 PM

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also, Bunkley knows that if he didn't restructure he ran a pretty big risk of being a June 1 cut, and the way things are for veterans anymore, there's no way he was going to get anything close to 4.4 million/year on the open market.

The tradeoff for the Saints of course is that they are basically committed to him for at least 2015, since they can't restructure two years in a row and cutting him would be a massive dead money hit.

ChrisXVI 04-09-2014 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 587904)
He's still getting his money upfront, it's just not part of his base salary anymore. He's taking $2.85 million lump sum as signing bonus. I wouldn't mind having those kinds of headaches.


No... He's only getting a $300,000 signing bonus. It was a true pay cut.

ScottF 04-09-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 587907)
also, Bunkley knows that if he didn't restructure he ran a pretty big risk of being a June 1 cut, and the way things are for veterans anymore, there's no way he was going to get anything close to 4.4 million/year on the open market.

The tradeoff for the Saints of course is that they are basically committed to him for at least 2015, since they can't restructure two years in a row and cutting him would be a massive dead money hit.

look at it this way- he was due $5 mill for 2014, and cutting him would have left us a a $5 million dollar hole and no player. That money was gone either way

This way we have money now, and taking a three year average, he now makes $3.5 mill annually

foreverfan 04-09-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 587892)
Glad he's a team player...

Talk about break the bank.... Hear that Drew.... :help::love:

Jack Vegas 04-09-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 587908)
No... He's only getting a $300,000 signing bonus. It was a true pay cut.

That's a roster bonus, not his full signing bonus. If I have it figured right the entirety of his signing bonus would be something in the neighborhood of 2.2 million.

You can't just cut people's salary. Base salary is guaranteed. They can restructure it into signing bonus, but you can't just say "you're taking 2.85 million dollars less this year". It's not allowed.

blackangold 04-09-2014 04:29 PM

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LOOOOMISSSS you did it AGAAAAIN........

lol

Failcants cry more

ChrisXVI 04-09-2014 04:32 PM

Bunkley Restructures, paycut
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 587916)
That's a roster bonus, which is part of his base salary. Not the signing bonus.


Edit... Never mind.

Jack Vegas 04-09-2014 04:34 PM

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Addressed above...I won't pretend to know everything about how this works but I know they can't just "erase" money from the books. It has to be moved around some way or another, whether it's in the form of a signing bonus in a restructure or dead money in an outright release. Think about your high school accounting class or whatever - the debits have to match up with the credits.

AliJee 04-09-2014 04:34 PM

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Somewhere in Atlanta the falcon fans continue to cry!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/10/3e4a2yre.jpg

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ChrisXVI 04-09-2014 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 587921)
Addressed above...I won't pretend to know everything about how this works but I know they can't just "erase" money from the books. It has to be moved around some way or another.


I gotcha man... I edited my post after reading what you added. I wasn't thinking.

B_Dub_Saint 04-09-2014 04:36 PM

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And boom goes the dynamite. Got it figured out yet clowns. O yea, we are cheating, thats right.

Jack Vegas 04-09-2014 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 587924)
I gotcha man... I edited my post after reading what you added. I wasn't thinking.

No problem....

I think the term "paycut" is misleading here. It's not the players actual "pay" that's getting cut, it's his cap figure. Which obviously has no bearing on the total amount of money he brings home that season.

I don't even think it's possible for any of us fans to understand all the ins and outs of the cap. There are so many provisions and loopholes that we don't even know about.

jeanpierre 04-09-2014 04:40 PM

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Bunkley won't play hurt anymore at that pay rate...

CheramieIII 04-09-2014 05:37 PM

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Guess we got everything covered with the CAP where are we at now?

Danno 04-09-2014 05:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 587938)
Guess we got everything covered with the CAP where are we at now?


We're at about 8 dollars under the cap, so I fully expect Loomis will sign a starting OC and WR soon.:p

Utah_Saint 04-09-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 587940)
We're at about 8 dollars under the cap, so I fully expect Loomis will sign a starting OC and WR soon.:p

Jacksonville just sent an offer to Alex Mack. Think Loomis will get in on it? :)

|Mitch| 04-09-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 587942)
Jacksonville just sent an offer to Alex Mack. Think Loomis will get in on it? :)

Didn't the Browns say, they would match any and all offers for Mack? And we don't have the cap space to get in a battle with either the Jags or the Browns. The Browns tagged him for 10 million to begin with and the Jags offered more

Utah_Saint 04-09-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 587949)
Didn't the Browns say, they would match any and all offers for Mack? And we don't have the cap space to get in a battle with either the Jags or the Browns. The Browns tagged him for 10 million to begin with and the Jags offered more

I was only kidding.

I keep hearing that we're up against the cap wall and then we sign or re-sign someone. Then we're really up against the wall and we sign or re-sign someone else. Then we're in cap ****. Then we sign or re-sign someone else.

So just playing along that line.... If Bunkley took a pay cut, we should now be able to sign Mack.

CheramieIII 04-09-2014 06:39 PM

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I just checked and after Champs money and before Bush we are 3.1 million under.

|Mitch| 04-09-2014 08:52 PM

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Team-friendly contracts for Bunkley, Bailey - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

brees84 04-09-2014 08:58 PM

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Great job with Bailey's deal.

ScottF 04-09-2014 09:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 587987)

Good article-
clears up the less money argument

ClintSaints 04-09-2014 10:08 PM

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That's a big cut. Wow.

His overall cap number is now about 3.3 million whereas before it was over 6 million.

Whoa.

TheOak 04-10-2014 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 587888)

As we predicted, only two viable candidates left. Bunkley was the third and lowest gain option.

TheOak 04-10-2014 07:10 AM

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6.3m under the cap not counting Bush and Haralson

TheOak 04-10-2014 09:54 AM

Team-friendly contracts for Bunkley, Bailey
 
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The New Orleans Saints have more wiggle room than expected under the salary cap.

Defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley agreed to a pay cut of $2.85 million. And newly-signed cornerback Champ Bailey’s first-year cap cost is only $1.5 million in an incentive-laden two-year contract.

Those two deals were officially processed on Wednesday, leaving the Saints with nearly $4 million in cap space. Their new deal for safety Rafael Bush hasn’t been processed yet, though that shouldn't affect New Orleans’ cap figure by more than $1 million or so.

Bunkley’s pay cut makes a lot of sense for two reasons.

He was originally slated to make $4.5 million in salary and bonuses this year – a lofty price tag considering he has been a part-time player for the Saints the past two years. Last year he finished with only 13 tackles, in part because of a calf injury that sidelined him for four games.

However, it also made sense that the Saints didn’t just cut Bunkley outright, since they still believe the 30-year-old can be an asset as a powerful run-stuffer. And he finished last season strong, playing some of his best football in his two-year stint in New Orleans.

Bunkley will make a total of $1.65 million this year, including a $300,000 roster bonus due Thursday. The final two years of his five-year contract were not affected, though they will likely have to be addressed again in the future.

Saints coach Sean Payton said situations like Bunkley’s play out every year in the NFL.

“You go through the numbers, you try to look closely at your roster. There’s some things that go into that,” Payton said. “He’s someone that I think has really kept in good shape. He had the injury earlier in the year. We saw really good signs from him in training camp. He knows the position. We’re excited he re-signed.”

Bailey, meanwhile, won’t cost the Saints much unless he performs for them – which is obviously a win-win proposition for the team.

Bailey’s two-year deal is worth between $3.75 million and $6.75 million, based on various bonuses and incentives. But only the $500,000 signing bonus is guaranteed.

Bailey is due a base salary of $1 million this year, plus another $250,000 roster bonus if he is active for at least six games. In 2015, he is due $2 million in salary and roster bonuses.

There is a total of $3 million more in incentives and escalator clauses based on playing time, interceptions and Pro Bowls. The exact thresholds are not known.
Team-friendly contracts for Bunkley, Bailey - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

AsylumGuido 04-10-2014 10:08 AM

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Nice!! We are in position to make another big move if we wish.


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