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Old 04-12-2014, 12:03 PM   #1
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Re: Zach Mettenberger marvels with maturity

Brett Favre is right there in Mississppi...
Ask him to be a back up
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Old 04-12-2014, 08:50 PM   #2
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If we do draft a QB, I hope it is Aaron Murray.
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Old 04-12-2014, 09:11 PM   #3
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I still have the feeling that Drews replacement isn't even in college yet.
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I still have the feeling that Drews replacement isn't even in college yet.
Agreed, and do we really think some QB drafted now is gonna wait 4 or 5 years to start?

Roders was the last of that breed, and by most accounts he was probably ready to go in year 2, definitely year 3 had Favre stopped un-retiring.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:26 AM   #5
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Probably not, but they should. Judging by their performance, the majority of these kids just aren't ready to lead a franchise. Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Mike Glennon, etc. More teams need to go the Aaron Rodgers route and develop their next franchise quarterback imo. They aren't doing these kids any favor coming into an unstable situation with the constant changing of coaches/system and just shattering their confidence throwing them into the fire.

At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what some drafted QB wants to do... it's really not their call.
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They aren't doing these kids any favor coming into an unstable situation with the constant changing of coaches/system and just shattering their confidence throwing them into the fire.
+1, agreed.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:56 AM   #7
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I disagree that they should be viewed or treated like kids.

@ 18 an American soldier is given a job that means life or death. About $18k/year. By the time a US Soldier sees the battle field he has been through at least 3 leaders/managers and Units.
@ 23 College graduates go out and get their first job and thrown to the wolves varies from $30k-$$180k/year. This cat has multiple bosses.

These men are making big boy money and allowed to act like spring break college students with zero recourse. Go tell your boss you have 2 DUIs and was just arrested at an airport because of a bomb threat and see how long you are gainfully employed. Make sure you bring those things up at your next interview as well and see how quickly you are hired.

Even more important that the previous examples, a great many of these rookies have had the responsibility of raising their own children...

23 years old and can raise a child but not handle a group of grown men?

They are not children when they enter the NFL but they are handled and treated like children which seems to have zero benefit other than to delay them manning the fk up.
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I disagree that they should be viewed or treated like kids.

@ 18 an American soldier is given a job that means life or death. About $18k/year. By the time a US Soldier sees the battle field he has been through at least 3 leaders/managers and Units.
@ 23 College graduates go out and get their first job and thrown to the wolves varies from $30k-$$180k/year. This cat has multiple bosses.

These men are making big boy money and allowed to act like spring break college students with zero recourse. Go tell your boss you have 2 DUIs and was just arrested at an airport because of a bomb threat and see how long you are gainfully employed. Make sure you bring those things up at your next interview as well and see how quickly you are hired.

Even more important that the previous examples, a great many of these rookies have had the responsibility of raising their own children...

23 years old and can raise a child but not handle a group of grown men?

They are not children when they enter the NFL but they are handled and treated like children which seems to have zero benefit other than to delay them manning the fk up.
You good sir, just won "post of the year".
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:42 AM   #9
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You're making this way more serious than it is. I don't even see why it has to even go that route. I'm actually a little disgusted we're even comparing American soldiers to football players.

There's nothing wrong with working your way up the food chain.

Hey, you just graduated college with limited work experience. You want to be the CEO of our company?

Hey, you just got drafted. Here's the keys to our billion dollar franchise. I hope you're ready!

Not the same concepts need to be applied to every single situation in life the same. There's not just one way to do everything.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

All little common sense goes a long way.
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You're making this way more serious than it is. I don't even see why it has to even go that route. I'm actually a little disgusted we're even comparing American soldiers to football players.

There's nothing wrong with working your way up the food chain.

Hey, you just graduated college with limited work experience. You want to be the CEO of our company?

Hey, you just got drafted. Here's the keys to our billion dollar franchise. I hope you're ready!

Not the same concepts need to be applied to every single situation in life the same. There's not just one way to do everything.
Don't be disgusted papz, I'm a combat veteran. But if you don't care for the soldier analogy. A NOPD recruit must have 2 years of college or military service, so at 20 they are paid 36k/year handed a firearm after training and they become CEO of the community.

There are plenty of 20 year old CEOs that didn't go to college but own and run their own companies for less than $100k/year, while also raising their children. I haven't seen a model yet where a drafted QB is given the keys to a franchise. The levels of mentoring and management between him and (free-to-decide) owner are a great many. But you know this already papz, from your previous post "At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what some drafted QB wants to do... it's really not their call. "

The "they are kids" argument just doesn't sit well with me, somehow less than 25 years old is viewed as a kid yet they are grownups with grownup responsibilities in their every day life.

Those rookies have been hammered since freshmen in high school with "time to grow up and prepare for life", "time to start making responsible decisions", "time to make something of your self".. Only to enter the work force and have someone say "they are kids, you cant expect them to act like adults and handle responsibility"? Even the rookies that grew up in broken homes were pounded daily by teachers in HS or College about handling their business.

Here is the rub on college graduate with zero work experience. Unless they pull an intern gig somewhere, you are correct, they graduate with little real world experience, everything is theoretical. A drafted first round QB has been under Center doing that same job for years by the time he reaches the NFL, only difference is that its for a Corporation and he gets paid more. I recognize that the weight of the pay and playing in the NFL is immense, that's why teams vet the heck out of rookies before they draft them.

Some are thrown into the fire because at the end of the day that is the only way to know how that multimillion dollar investment will handle the pressures of the playoffs and Superbowl. As far as Rodgers and Brady, not exactly the norm. One became a starter because someone else was injured and the other was unlucky enough to get drafted by a team that had a QB that didn't know when it was time to go to pasture.

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