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TheOak 04-10-2014 10:00 AM

NFL takes back $21,000 fine on safety Rafael Bush following appeal
 
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The NFL has taken back a $21,000 fine against New Orleans Saints safety Rafael Bush following a successful appeal, according to his agent Brian Anderson.

"I just realized it took me 3 months to appeal my last fine yep can I have my 21 back now thank you," Bush tweeted Wednesday night."

Bush was fined for a hit against Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Percy Harvin in their NFC divisional playoff game in January. He was penalized 15 yards for a hit to a defenseless receiver, which caused the Harvin to leave the game to be tested for a concussion.

Harvin returned to the game, but later left again for good after hitting the turf following an incomplete pass.

"Anybody know me knows I play fast and physical but it's all good y'all have a blessed day," Bush tweeted after the game.
NFL takes back $21,000 fine on safety Rafael Bush following appeal | NOLA.com

jnormand 04-10-2014 10:48 AM

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So the NFL "took back" the fine? Am I the only one that is confused a bit? So did he get his coin back or not?! Cause if the league took it back that means they still have it!

Rugby Saint II 04-10-2014 11:07 AM

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Screw you Roger!

TheOak 04-10-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 588061)
So the NFL "took back" the fine? Am I the only one that is confused a bit? So did he get his coin back or not?! Cause if the league took it back that means they still have it!

Read second line of OP.

AsylumGuido 04-10-2014 11:10 AM

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If you go to the link the article is titled "rescinds", not "takes back".

TheOak 04-10-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 588067)
If you go to the link the article is titled "rescinds", not "takes back".

Seems they caught the error, I copied and pasted the headline with out edit. The URL from the OP has "takes back" as well LOL!

Seems like an editor finally got around to reading it. :bng:

Utah_Saint 04-10-2014 11:42 AM

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Too bad they can't recind the 3 points that directly resulted from that play.

lee909 04-10-2014 11:51 AM

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Its all about making the point straight after the game.
Look how many players say the money was never taken for fines or players that win on appeal. This just allows the front office to make out that they are cracking down on big hits to the outside world while not actually enforcing anything. The league knows the fans want big hits,the players want to play hard and fast but in a era of player safety they need to show they are doing something,even if they really are not.

NonieT 04-10-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 588083)
Its all about making the point straight after the game.
Look how many players say the money was never taken for fines or players that win on appeal. This just allows the front office to make out that they are cracking down on big hits to the outside world while not actually enforcing anything. The league knows the fans want big hits,the players want to play hard and fast but in a era of player safety they need to show they are doing something,even if they really are not.

All this tells me is that it never should have been flagged and certainly not fined in the first place.

QBREES9 04-10-2014 12:58 PM

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Now go have, Mr Rafael Bush

jnormand 04-10-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 588068)
Seems they caught the error, I copied and pasted the headline with out edit. The URL from the OP has "takes back" as well LOL!

Seems like an editor finally got around to reading it. :bng:

So I wasn't the only one who thought the title was weird. Lol. Thanks Oak.

TheOak 04-10-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 588124)
So I wasn't the only one who thought the title was weird. Lol. Thanks Oak.


When Bush said "I can have my 21 back".... It was clear to me..

I do have the benefit of posting a lot of articles and titles are often misleading.

AsylumGuido 04-10-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 588127)
When Bush said "I can have my 21 back".... It was clear to me..

I do have the benefit of posting a lot of articles and titles are often misleading.

Also, titles, or headlines, are seldom written by the person that pens the article. That in itself leads to quite a bit of misleading leads. (see that, three leads in one sentence?)

TheOak 04-10-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 588131)
Also, titles, or headlines, are seldom written by the person that pens the article. That in itself leads to quite a bit of misleading leads. (see that, three leads in one sentence?)


There, their, they're..... Everything will be fine. ;)

Rugby Saint II 04-10-2014 05:44 PM

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Does anybody else wish that hit had been on Godhell?

st thomas 04-10-2014 08:52 PM

Re: NFL takes back $21,000 fine on safety Rafael Bush following appeal
 
that's why I didn't want to lose that guy bush. he will make a few receivers respect his play. that dude can bring it.

hennr 04-10-2014 09:11 PM

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The bad call from Ref was 3 points for sea ckens.The hit was a statement to sea cluckens the saints came to play hard.old Rogggerr could not have hated saints come out on top ,therefore the bad call an resulting 3 points.:bng::lolup:

Danno 04-10-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hennr (Post 588215)
The bad call from Ref was 3 points for sea ckens.The hit was a statement to sea cluckens the saints came to play hard.old Rogggerr could not have hated saints come out on call therefore the bad call an resulting 3 points.:bng::lolup:

WHAT?

nola_swammi 04-10-2014 09:17 PM

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that clearly was a legal hit; I was telling my friends the blow was not to his head. The argument is and always will be defining a defenseless player



TheOak 04-11-2014 07:03 AM

Re: NFL takes back $21,000 fine on safety Rafael Bush following appeal
 
I cant begin to count the times that Colston has been hit just like that with no flag.

SmashMouth 04-11-2014 09:00 PM

Re: NFL takes back $21,000 fine on safety Rafael Bush following appeal
 
I just wonder if the Seahags fans will take back their vitriol now that the fine has been rescinded.

AsylumGuido 04-11-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 588344)
I just wonder if the Seahags fans will take back their vitriol now that the fine has been rescinded.

I am in daily contact with Seahawks fans and have discussed this play in depth.

http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/upl...ushSeattle.gif

My take is that under the current rules the hit was illegal, yet it did not warrant a fine because the hit could not be avoided. Bush clearly made contact with Harvin's head. Under the current rules that is a penalty regardless of the circumstances. When Bush began his body drive to make the tackle it was directed at Harvin's chest where the ball would have been in his hands. When Harvin bobbled the ball he dropped down and Bush's left shoulder and helmet caught him flush in the head.

Under today's rules the call on the field was right. However, the fine was not justified because the illegal hit was unavoidable.

The rule itself is the problem. It puts a defensive player in the situation of attempting to make a legal hit only to be punished by the repositioning of the offensive player.

As a result, I am pissed off as a Saints fan and can fully understand the Seahawk fan's vitriol as well.

Utah_Saint 04-11-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 588349)
I am in daily contact with Seahawks fans and have discussed this play in depth.

http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/upl...ushSeattle.gif

My take is that under the current rules the hit was illegal, yet it did not warrant a fine because the hit could not be avoided. Bush clearly made contact with Harvin's head. Under the current rules that is a penalty regardless of the circumstances. When Bush began his body drive to make the tackle it was directed at Harvin's chest where the ball would have been in his hands. When Harvin bobbled the ball he dropped down and Bush's left shoulder and helmet caught him flush in the head.

Under today's rules the call on the field was right. However, the fine was not justified because the illegal hit was unavoidable.

The rule itself is the problem. It puts a defensive player in the situation of attempting to make a legal hit only to be punished by the repositioning of the offensive player.

As a result, I am pissed off as a Saints fan and can fully understand the Seahawk fan's vitriol as well.

**** Seahawks fans. If it makes them angry, then I'm all for it.

hennr 04-12-2014 07:47 PM

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that hit set the tone the saints came to play sea clucks hard.Now to me refs gave game to sea cpecks.The hit was ok the refs were onesided all game.saints secondary be as good if allowed to cheat like sea ducks all year.now if refs call rules same both sides keep in mind when lance Moore came back with just a small part of the BULLSSSSSt sea cluks did the flag almost break the speed of sound flying out of refs hands.


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