Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back

B_Dub_Saint · 04-13-2014, 08:21 AM

Goodwin would be a huge move, pun intended. I'm in favor of all of these moves. A nice vet that knows our offense and can replace Brian Del would be more comfortable than an unproven guy. Let's make it happen Captain.

jnormand · 04-13-2014, 09:43 AM

I'm good with all three. Although I will say that it wouldn't hurt to draft at each one of those positions and get some competition in there. Greer back 100% would be awesome.

TheOak · 04-13-2014, 09:53 AM

The article isn't even speculation, it's more listing obvious possibilities.

They "could" being back Shanle, Brooks, and Ditka as well.

Who from the Saints organization originated these "rumors"?

We presently have 65 players under contract and will draft at least 7 more I believe so not only will those not be here on opening day, neither will a handful or two that we know now.

Greer - We just lost 2.6m in cap space when he was cut. Loomis would look like a fool if brought back.

2.6m in dead money + 1m league minimum = 3.7m

SmashMouth · 04-13-2014, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The article isn't even speculation, it's more listing obvious possibilities.

They "could" being back Shanle, Brooks, and Ditka as well.

Who from the Saints organization originated these "rumors"?

We presently have 65 players under contract and will draft at least 7 more I believe so not only will those not be here on opening day, neither will a handful or two that we know now.

Greer - We just lost 2.6m in cap space when he was cut. Loomis would look like a fool if brought back.

2.6m in dead money + 1m league minimum = 3.7m

Can you imagine the outrage if Brooks indeed came back? LOL
Greer, as good as he was, even if he could come back, has lost a step or two. Not a good recipe for not getting beat. Maybe a late season addition due to injury, provided he is healthy of course.

TheOak · 04-13-2014, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Can you imagine the outrage if Brooks indeed came back? LOL

Greer, as good as he was, even if he could come back, has lost a step or two. Not a good recipe for not getting beat. Maybe a late season addition due to injury, provided he is healthy of course.

Safety blanket addition if we lose someone very possible. Otherwise I don't see it.

You don't start a youth movement by bringing back 10 year old vets to take reps in camp or preseason.

Those 3 are not needs, and Goodwin would cost more than a rookie.

voodooido · 04-13-2014, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The article isn't even speculation, it's more listing obvious possibilities.

They "could" being back Shanle, Brooks, and Ditka as well.

Who from the Saints organization originated these "rumors"?

We presently have 65 players under contract and will draft at least 7 more I believe so not only will those not be here on opening day, neither will a handful or two that we know now.

Greer - We just lost 2.6m in cap space when he was cut. Loomis would look like a fool if brought back.

2.6m in dead money + 1m league minimum = 3.7m

thought Greer sch to make 6 mil this year? And if so 3.7 is much better than 6 mil

TheOak · 04-13-2014, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

thought Greer sch to make 6 mil this year? And if so 3.7 is much better than 6 mil

Seriously?

Ok, fine lets put this in layman terms using your numbers since you like the idea.

You bought a $6m car, sold it because it wasn't worth the $6m for a $2.7m loss.. So you then re-bought it for $1m, marveled at the brilliance and slept well that night?

If your car won't refinance because it isn't worth it, and you make the tough decision that takes 2.7 million in credit from you.... Your not going back down that road with out looking like an idiot.

If those 3 are our there right now at this stage, there is a reason. It's probably because Greer will not sign for league minimum of 1m

voodooido · 04-13-2014, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Seriously?

Ok, fine lets put this in layman terms using your numbers since you like the idea.

You bought a $6m car, sold it because it wasn't worth the $6m for a $2.7m loss.. So you then re-bought it for $1m, marveled at the brilliance and slept well that night?

If your car won't refinance because it isn't worth it, and you make the tough decision that takes 2.7 million in credit from you.... Your not going back down that road with out looking like an idiot.

If those 3 are our there right now at this stage, there is a reason. It's probably because Greer will not sign for league minimum of 1m

Ok, first off we did not pay 6 mil this year for him. We paid 2.7 mil to keep from paying 6 mil. If we could sign him for 1 mil that would equal 3.7 mil. A savings of 2.3 million. I would take that. As for him asking more I agree there.

TheOak · 04-13-2014, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Ok, first off we did not pay 6 mil this year for him. We paid 2.7 mil to keep from paying 6 mil. If we could sign him for 1 mil that would equal 3.7 mil. A savings of 2.3 million. I would take that. As for him asking more I agree there.

Ever had to pay 2.7 mil to get out of a 6m deal? Do you think Benson sees it as Loomis saving him 3.3m or costing him 2.7m. Trust me, Loomis had to explain that 2.7m loss in cap space and he has no plans of explaining how he was wrong.

1m+2.7 = 3.7m for 32yo 10 season Greer coming off a torn ACL
Or
750k for a healthy rookie <---- I'm going rookie all day.

Again there was a reason Loomis ate 2.7m in cap space on Greer and no one has touched him as a FA.

It's time to move on.

saintfan · 04-13-2014, 10:20 AM

<bringing up old debate and waiting for the **** storm>

We could do a lot worse than Brooks, just for the sake of argument. People love to bash him but tend to (conveniently) forget we were averaging dang near 30 points a game while he was QB. During his time here our defense was turrible, just turrible.

<\bringing up old debate and waiting for the **** storm>

As for the guys mentioned, I'm not much on it. I know Greer could play if his knee allows for it, so I wouldn't be against that, but I'd much rather see us invest in younger guys if at all possible.

04-13-2014, 08:21 AM	#1
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Goodwin would be a huge move, pun intended. I'm in favor of all of these moves. A nice vet that knows our offense and can replace Brian Del would be more comfortable than an unproven guy. Let's make it happen Captain. hagan714 and K Major like this.

04-13-2014, 09:43 AM	#2
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,782	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back I'm good with all three. Although I will say that it wouldn't hurt to draft at each one of those positions and get some competition in there. Greer back 100% would be awesome. hagan714 and MarchingOn like this.

04-13-2014, 09:53 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,056	Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back The article isn't even speculation, it's more listing obvious possibilities. They "could" being back Shanle, Brooks, and Ditka as well. Who from the Saints organization originated these "rumors"? We presently have 65 players under contract and will draft at least 7 more I believe so not only will those not be here on opening day, neither will a handful or two that we know now. Greer - We just lost 2.6m in cap space when he was cut. Loomis would look like a fool if brought back. 2.6m in dead money + 1m league minimum = 3.7m SmashMouth and brees84 like this.
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04-13-2014, 10:11 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,025 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Originally Posted by TheOak The article isn't even speculation, it's more listing obvious possibilities. They "could" being back Shanle, Brooks, and Ditka as well. Who from the Saints organization originated these "rumors"? We presently have 65 players under contract and will draft at least 7 more I believe so not only will those not be here on opening day, neither will a handful or two that we know now. Greer - We just lost 2.6m in cap space when he was cut. Loomis would look like a fool if brought back. 2.6m in dead money + 1m league minimum = 3.7m Can you imagine the outrage if Brooks indeed came back? LOL Greer, as good as he was, even if he could come back, has lost a step or two. Not a good recipe for not getting beat. Maybe a late season addition due to injury, provided he is healthy of course.

04-13-2014, 10:43 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,056	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Originally Posted by SmashMouth Can you imagine the outrage if Brooks indeed came back? LOL Greer, as good as he was, even if he could come back, has lost a step or two. Not a good recipe for not getting beat. Maybe a late season addition due to injury, provided he is healthy of course. Safety blanket addition if we lose someone very possible. Otherwise I don't see it. You don't start a youth movement by bringing back 10 year old vets to take reps in camp or preseason. Those 3 are not needs, and Goodwin would cost more than a rookie.

04-13-2014, 02:20 PM	#6
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,846	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Originally Posted by TheOak The article isn't even speculation, it's more listing obvious possibilities. They "could" being back Shanle, Brooks, and Ditka as well. Who from the Saints organization originated these "rumors"? We presently have 65 players under contract and will draft at least 7 more I believe so not only will those not be here on opening day, neither will a handful or two that we know now. Greer - We just lost 2.6m in cap space when he was cut. Loomis would look like a fool if brought back. 2.6m in dead money + 1m league minimum = 3.7m thought Greer sch to make 6 mil this year? And if so 3.7 is much better than 6 mil
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04-13-2014, 02:52 PM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,056	Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Originally Posted by voodooido thought Greer sch to make 6 mil this year? And if so 3.7 is much better than 6 mil Seriously? Ok, fine lets put this in layman terms using your numbers since you like the idea. You bought a $6m car, sold it because it wasn't worth the $6m for a $2.7m loss.. So you then re-bought it for $1m, marveled at the brilliance and slept well that night? If your car won't refinance because it isn't worth it, and you make the tough decision that takes 2.7 million in credit from you.... Your not going back down that road with out looking like an idiot. If those 3 are our there right now at this stage, there is a reason. It's probably because Greer will not sign for league minimum of 1m
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04-13-2014, 04:03 PM	#8
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,846	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Originally Posted by TheOak Seriously? Ok, fine lets put this in layman terms using your numbers since you like the idea. You bought a $6m car, sold it because it wasn't worth the $6m for a $2.7m loss.. So you then re-bought it for $1m, marveled at the brilliance and slept well that night? If your car won't refinance because it isn't worth it, and you make the tough decision that takes 2.7 million in credit from you.... Your not going back down that road with out looking like an idiot. If those 3 are our there right now at this stage, there is a reason. It's probably because Greer will not sign for league minimum of 1m Ok, first off we did not pay 6 mil this year for him. We paid 2.7 mil to keep from paying 6 mil. If we could sign him for 1 mil that would equal 3.7 mil. A savings of 2.3 million. I would take that. As for him asking more I agree there.
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04-13-2014, 04:22 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,056	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Originally Posted by voodooido Ok, first off we did not pay 6 mil this year for him. We paid 2.7 mil to keep from paying 6 mil. If we could sign him for 1 mil that would equal 3.7 mil. A savings of 2.3 million. I would take that. As for him asking more I agree there. Ever had to pay 2.7 mil to get out of a 6m deal? Do you think Benson sees it as Loomis saving him 3.3m or costing him 2.7m. Trust me, Loomis had to explain that 2.7m loss in cap space and he has no plans of explaining how he was wrong. 1m+2.7 = 3.7m for 32yo 10 season Greer coming off a torn ACL Or 750k for a healthy rookie <---- I'm going rookie all day. Again there was a reason Loomis ate 2.7m in cap space on Greer and no one has touched him as a FA. It's time to move on.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

04-13-2014, 10:20 AM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back <bringing up old debate and waiting for the ** storm> We could do a lot worse than Brooks, just for the sake of argument. People love to bash him but tend to (conveniently) forget we were averaging dang near 30 points a game while he was QB. During his time here our defense was turrible, just turrible. <\bringing up old debate and waiting for the ** storm> As for the guys mentioned, I'm not much on it. I know Greer could play if his knee allows for it, so I wouldn't be against that, but I'd much rather see us invest in younger guys if at all possible.
	C'mon Man...

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