Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back

TheOak · 04-13-2014, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Ok, first off we did not pay 6 mil this year for him. We paid 2.7 mil to keep from paying 6 mil. If we could sign him for 1 mil that would equal 3.7 mil. A savings of 2.3 million. I would take that. As for him asking more I agree there.

Ever had to pay 2.7 mil to get out of a 6m deal? Do you think Benson sees it as Loomis saving him 3.3m or costing him 2.7m. Trust me, Loomis had to explain that 2.7m loss in cap space and he has no plans of explaining how he was wrong.

1m+2.7 = 3.7m for 32yo 10 season Greer coming off a torn ACL
Or
750k for a healthy rookie <---- I'm going rookie all day.

Again there was a reason Loomis ate 2.7m in cap space on Greer and no one has touched him as a FA.

It's time to move on.

rezburna · 04-13-2014, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Ever had to pay 2.7 mil to get out of a 6m deal? Do you think Benson sees it as Loomis saving him 3.3m or costing him 2.7m. Trust me, Loomis had to explain that 2.7m loss in cap space and he has no plans of explaining how he was wrong.

1m+2.7 = 3.7m for 32yo 10 season Greer coming off a torn ACL
Or
750k for a healthy rookie <---- I'm going rookie all day.

Again there was a reason Loomis ate 2.7m in cap space on Greer and no one has touched him as a FA.

It's time to move on.

Yeah, Greer's career is pretty much over.

ScottF · 04-13-2014, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Ever had to pay 2.7 mil to get out of a 6m deal? Do you think Benson sees it as Loomis saving him 3.3m or costing him 2.7m. Trust me, Loomis had to explain that 2.7m loss in cap space and he has no plans of explaining how he was wrong.

1m+2.7 = 3.7m for 32yo 10 season Greer coming off a torn ACL
Or
750k for a healthy rookie <---- I'm going rookie all day.

Again there was a reason Loomis ate 2.7m in cap space on Greer and no one has touched him as a FA.

It's time to move on.

but the $2.7 is gone, already spent

Now you are talking about spending $750K for a rookie or $1 mill for a vet.
If it's a rookie with potential, then sure, that's the way to go. However, we already have Wade, Sweeting, and Frederick? as projects. Bailey is a question mark and White is a work in progress.
If Greer is healthy, I'd rather him than another FA or UD rookie.

TheOak · 04-14-2014, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

but the $2.7 is gone, already spent

Now you are talking about spending $750K for a rookie or $1 mill for a vet.
If it's a rookie with potential, then sure, that's the way to go. However, we already have Wade, Sweeting, and Frederick? as projects. Bailey is a question mark and White is a work in progress.
If Greer is healthy, I'd rather him than another FA or UD rookie.

I said 1m for a vet because with his 10 years that is Greers vet minimum. There is also the assumption that if there was any viability left on Greer, Loomis tried to negotiate a more friendly cap number and Greer wouldn't take it so he was cut. More assumption that a team tried to approach Greer with vet minimum and he is still a free agent.

Yes the 2.7m in cap space is already spent, at this point its a sunk cost and I do not see Loomis sinking another dollar into a player that he was forced to sink an unrecoverable 2.7m.

When players get up in age or 10+ years they don't usually go for a vet minimum because of the risk that he could never get injured and never fully recover. In Greers case he has made $31m in his career and since he hasn't retired I am assuming that he can still play, but he isn't going to risk being crippled for a vet minimum.

There are boat load of assumptions, basically because we have nothing else to go on.

04-13-2014, 04:22 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Originally Posted by voodooido Ok, first off we did not pay 6 mil this year for him. We paid 2.7 mil to keep from paying 6 mil. If we could sign him for 1 mil that would equal 3.7 mil. A savings of 2.3 million. I would take that. As for him asking more I agree there. Ever had to pay 2.7 mil to get out of a 6m deal? Do you think Benson sees it as Loomis saving him 3.3m or costing him 2.7m. Trust me, Loomis had to explain that 2.7m loss in cap space and he has no plans of explaining how he was wrong. 1m+2.7 = 3.7m for 32yo 10 season Greer coming off a torn ACL Or 750k for a healthy rookie <---- I'm going rookie all day. Again there was a reason Loomis ate 2.7m in cap space on Greer and no one has touched him as a FA. It's time to move on.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

04-13-2014, 04:32 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,020	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Originally Posted by TheOak Ever had to pay 2.7 mil to get out of a 6m deal? Do you think Benson sees it as Loomis saving him 3.3m or costing him 2.7m. Trust me, Loomis had to explain that 2.7m loss in cap space and he has no plans of explaining how he was wrong. 1m+2.7 = 3.7m for 32yo 10 season Greer coming off a torn ACL Or 750k for a healthy rookie <---- I'm going rookie all day. Again there was a reason Loomis ate 2.7m in cap space on Greer and no one has touched him as a FA. It's time to move on. Yeah, Greer's career is pretty much over.

04-13-2014, 04:35 PM	#3
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Originally Posted by TheOak Ever had to pay 2.7 mil to get out of a 6m deal? Do you think Benson sees it as Loomis saving him 3.3m or costing him 2.7m. Trust me, Loomis had to explain that 2.7m loss in cap space and he has no plans of explaining how he was wrong. 1m+2.7 = 3.7m for 32yo 10 season Greer coming off a torn ACL Or 750k for a healthy rookie <---- I'm going rookie all day. Again there was a reason Loomis ate 2.7m in cap space on Greer and no one has touched him as a FA. It's time to move on. but the $2.7 is gone, already spent Now you are talking about spending $750K for a rookie or $1 mill for a vet. If it's a rookie with potential, then sure, that's the way to go. However, we already have Wade, Sweeting, and Frederick? as projects. Bailey is a question mark and White is a work in progress. If Greer is healthy, I'd rather him than another FA or UD rookie.

04-14-2014, 06:26 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back Originally Posted by ScottF but the $2.7 is gone, already spent Now you are talking about spending $750K for a rookie or $1 mill for a vet. If it's a rookie with potential, then sure, that's the way to go. However, we already have Wade, Sweeting, and Frederick? as projects. Bailey is a question mark and White is a work in progress. If Greer is healthy, I'd rather him than another FA or UD rookie. I said 1m for a vet because with his 10 years that is Greers vet minimum. There is also the assumption that if there was any viability left on Greer, Loomis tried to negotiate a more friendly cap number and Greer wouldn't take it so he was cut. More assumption that a team tried to approach Greer with vet minimum and he is still a free agent. Yes the 2.7m in cap space is already spent, at this point its a sunk cost and I do not see Loomis sinking another dollar into a player that he was forced to sink an unrecoverable 2.7m. When players get up in age or 10+ years they don't usually go for a vet minimum because of the risk that he could never get injured and never fully recover. In Greers case he has made $31m in his career and since he hasn't retired I am assuming that he can still play, but he isn't going to risk being crippled for a vet minimum. There are boat load of assumptions, basically because we have nothing else to go on. saintsfan403 likes this.
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