Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back
 

According to the NFL Network’s Albert Breer, the Saints could bring back some of those players, and he lists wide receiver Robert Meachem, former center Jonathan Goodwin, and Greer as three examples of veterans who could sign with the team ahead of training camp. The Saints recently added Champ Bailey, but they could still re-sign Greer, who is cheap and still played at a solid level last season. A CB trio of Keenan Lewis, Bailey, and Greer would be a solid one in front of the elite safety duo of Byrd and Kenny Vaccaro.

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Would be delighted to have Goodwin and Greer back for the right price. Meachem would have to be real cheap as id rather get draft players at WR

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I agree 100%

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Solid veteran moves with Goodwin and Greer
Meachem would be cheap i think the chargers are still stuck paying him. either way no biggie. he just another streaker on the scrap pile

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I wouldn't mind any of those moves. Meachem knows the system and will make a couple of big plays every year.

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Nothing wrong with bringing all 3 to camp. If no one beats them out of their job, then it was worth it.

Greer is the one I'd like to have the most. Hard to believe that knee would be ready. PUP perhaps?

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Hard to know for sure, adrian peterson came back from an ACL and MCL tear in 6 months and had his best season, just depends how greers rehab has gone

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Goodwin would be a huge move, pun intended. I'm in favor of all of these moves. A nice vet that knows our offense and can replace Brian Del would be more comfortable than an unproven guy. Let's make it happen Captain.

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Just imagine if we could get Greer back 100% sometime during the season.

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I'm good with all three. Although I will say that it wouldn't hurt to draft at each one of those positions and get some competition in there. Greer back 100% would be awesome.

Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back
 

The article isn't even speculation, it's more listing obvious possibilities.

They "could" being back Shanle, Brooks, and Ditka as well.

Who from the Saints organization originated these "rumors"? ;)

We presently have 65 players under contract and will draft at least 7 more I believe so not only will those not be here on opening day, neither will a handful or two that we know now.

Greer - We just lost 2.6m in cap space when he was cut. Loomis would look like a fool if brought back.

2.6m in dead money + 1m league minimum = 3.7m

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Can you imagine the outrage if Brooks indeed came back? LOL
Greer, as good as he was, even if he could come back, has lost a step or two. Not a good recipe for not getting beat. Maybe a late season addition due to injury, provided he is healthy of course.

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<bringing up old debate and waiting for the **** storm>

We could do a lot worse than Brooks, just for the sake of argument. People love to bash him but tend to (conveniently) forget we were averaging dang near 30 points a game while he was QB. During his time here our defense was turrible, just turrible.

<\bringing up old debate and waiting for the **** storm>

:couch:

As for the guys mentioned, I'm not much on it. I know Greer could play if his knee allows for it, so I wouldn't be against that, but I'd much rather see us invest in younger guys if at all possible.

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I can guarantee if these 3 comeback we will definitely be going for a lot of front 8 on the defense.

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Safety blanket addition if we lose someone very possible. Otherwise I don't see it.

You don't start a youth movement by bringing back 10 year old vets to take reps in camp or preseason.

Those 3 are not needs, and Goodwin would cost more than a rookie.

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thought Greer sch to make 6 mil this year? And if so 3.7 is much better than 6 mil

Saints Rumors: Robert Meachem, Jabari Greer, Jonathan Goodwin could be back
 

Seriously?

Ok, fine lets put this in layman terms using your numbers since you like the idea.

You bought a $6m car, sold it because it wasn't worth the $6m for a $2.7m loss.. So you then re-bought it for $1m, marveled at the brilliance and slept well that night?

If your car won't refinance because it isn't worth it, and you make the tough decision that takes 2.7 million in credit from you.... Your not going back down that road with out looking like an idiot.

If those 3 are our there right now at this stage, there is a reason. It's probably because Greer will not sign for league minimum of 1m

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I liked Aaron Brooks. He had 4 nice years for us. Threw a lot of picks on occasion, but I liked him nonetheless.

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Ok, first off we did not pay 6 mil this year for him. We paid 2.7 mil to keep from paying 6 mil. If we could sign him for 1 mil that would equal 3.7 mil. A savings of 2.3 million. I would take that. As for him asking more I agree there.

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I liked my Ex-wife at one time but would not invite her back..........

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Strange thread. Bring Greer and Meachem back. That's the end.

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I would take Goodwin for a year until we figure out who the long term answer is at C. Maybe it's Lelito, but another option is needed (see C.Brown, 2013).

We could've gambled on Greer, chose Bailey instead.

Meachem? really, who cares?
5th or 6th WR has to be the most replaceable roster spot of the 53. If he wants the $855,000, then maybe if Morgan gets hurt again or we decide Toon is a bust

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I didn't say bring him back, he's older than Brees. That boy can't play anymore. He couldn't play anymore when he was in Oakland.

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Only thing that ticked me off about AB was when he would throw a INT and smile as he walked off the field.

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Ever had to pay 2.7 mil to get out of a 6m deal? Do you think Benson sees it as Loomis saving him 3.3m or costing him 2.7m. Trust me, Loomis had to explain that 2.7m loss in cap space and he has no plans of explaining how he was wrong.

1m+2.7 = 3.7m for 32yo 10 season Greer coming off a torn ACL
Or
750k for a healthy rookie <---- I'm going rookie all day.

Again there was a reason Loomis ate 2.7m in cap space on Greer and no one has touched him as a FA.

It's time to move on.

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He smiled after every pick. My dad used to get so mad.

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Yeah, Greer's career is pretty much over.

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but the $2.7 is gone, already spent

Now you are talking about spending $750K for a rookie or $1 mill for a vet.
If it's a rookie with potential, then sure, that's the way to go. However, we already have Wade, Sweeting, and Frederick? as projects. Bailey is a question mark and White is a work in progress.
If Greer is healthy, I'd rather him than another FA or UD rookie.

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I feel like Greer is more of ? mark then Bailey. I keep telling y'all, watch out for Patrick Robinson, and Corey White looks much better at Nickel then as a 1 or a 2.

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I hope you are right. If Robinson is ready, White could end as #4 on the depth chart

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if you get 8 games out of Robinson you will be lucky

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We might say the same for Bailey :)
It would be easier if we could pick the 8 for each

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8+8 = 16

greer seals the playoffs

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I think you're right.

In 2011 Patrick Robinson looked great.

In 2012 he looked terrible but the whole defense looked terrible. Even as many yards as he gave up he still only allowed a 55.3% catch rate. That's pretty good.

If he's recovered from his Patella injury, I'm hoping he'll be back to 2011 form in this defense.

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He can't run that cover 2 scheme. He's press, man to man like all of Florida State's corners.

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I got a feeling we press alot this season with a single high FS and 2 SS, my opinion it would be crazy not to. I think White will shine in the slot. I like Robinson, good when healthy but he has to stay healthy. Last season taught White what it takes to be a #2 corner, I thought he held up well to be thrown into it after Robinson was hurt, he has had a good taste and a good learning experience, he is my pick as breakout player this season.

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I said 1m for a vet because with his 10 years that is Greers vet minimum. There is also the assumption that if there was any viability left on Greer, Loomis tried to negotiate a more friendly cap number and Greer wouldn't take it so he was cut. More assumption that a team tried to approach Greer with vet minimum and he is still a free agent.

Yes the 2.7m in cap space is already spent, at this point its a sunk cost and I do not see Loomis sinking another dollar into a player that he was forced to sink an unrecoverable 2.7m.

When players get up in age or 10+ years they don't usually go for a vet minimum because of the risk that he could never get injured and never fully recover. In Greers case he has made $31m in his career and since he hasn't retired I am assuming that he can still play, but he isn't going to risk being crippled for a vet minimum.

There are boat load of assumptions, basically because we have nothing else to go on.

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Yes to Goodwin, he has been missed.

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Why do you say that? 2013 was the only time he really missed any games.

He played in 12 games his rookie season, 17 games in year 2, and 16 games in year 3.

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The yawning from AB did it for me. Just didn't seem motivated to lead his team at times. Body language tells the story ... sometimes.