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TheOak 04-15-2014 06:42 AM

May 3 deadline to extend Jordan, Ingram
 
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The New Orleans Saints have to decide by May 3 whether they want to extend the contracts of their 2011 first-round draft picks -- defensive end Cameron Jordan and running back Mark Ingram -- through the 2015 season.

Jordan’s extension is expected to cost $6.969 million for 2015 and Ingram’s $5.211 million, according to ESPN NFL Insider John Clayton, who wrote about the looming fifth-year extensions around the league.

This is the first year that these fifth-year extensions will kick in after they were added to the NFL’s collective bargaining agreement in 2011. And as Clayton pointed out, that 2011 draft class happened to be one of the best in years.

Therefore, several teams are expected to retain their players -- which will put a dent in the talent available in next year’s free agency class around the league.

Extending Jordan is a no-brainer for the Saints. He was a first-time Pro Bowler last year in a breakout season with 12.5 sacks. He is arguably the Saints’ top defensive player as he heads into his fourth NFL season. And he doesn’t turn 25 until July.

Ingram is less likely to be extended at that price – even though the Saints remain high on his future and could consider re-signing him to a more affordable extension.

Ingram, 24, finished strong last season with an impressive performance in the playoffs. And his role in the Saints’ backfield could increase slightly this year now that the Saints have traded away veteran Darren Sproles. However, Ingram will still be in a timeshare with fellow running backs Pierre Thomas and Khiry Robinson.

Too early to draft Brees’ successor: Also in Clayton’s mailbag, he said it’s still too early for the Saints to draft a successor for quarterback Drew Brees. I completely agree -- as I’ve written several times this offseason. I expect Brees to keep playing at a high level for at least three or four more years.

May 3 deadline for Saints to extend Cameron Jordan, Mark Ingram - ESPN

lee909 04-15-2014 07:15 AM

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Can Jordan yes
Ingram no,I think he can be good but no RB on the saints roster will be worth that.

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TheOak 04-15-2014 07:47 AM

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Yes you extend Jordan, at the very least to save money and mitigate risk. Top 5 DEs are going for 11m+/year. "If".. and I am hopeful it was not, but if 2013 was a fluke for Cam (EG Will Smith), you would rather pay him 7m in 2015 than 11m/year for 4 years of lack luster. We still need to see at least 1 more year of Cam producing like he did in 2013 to be able to consider him worth it.

Ingram has a decision to make, if he wants to stay in New Orleans he needs to ask for no extension, if he wants to leave he needs to push for it.

SmashMouth 04-15-2014 07:56 AM

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But will Jordan want to be extended? Methinks he risks it for a larger payday.

Danno 04-15-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 588638)
But will Jordan want to be extended? Methinks he risks it for a larger payday.

I don't think the player has a choice. Its a team option, not a player option.

TheOak 04-15-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 588638)
But will Jordan want to be extended? Methinks he risks it for a larger payday.

Its not up to the player. Its a team option.

Ill dig out the CBA verbiage.

TheOak 04-15-2014 08:25 AM

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Page 31 and 32 of the CBA.
http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/...-2011-2020.pdf

Crusader 04-15-2014 11:19 AM

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Jordan in a heartbeat. I'd say no thanks to Ingram for that price.

brees84 04-15-2014 11:56 AM

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This offesason showed that RB market is getting under control. Nobody is overpaying for this position. Unless you are looking for AP's or Shady's replacement you can easily find cheap and effective solution (in the draft or via free agency)

joker-saint 04-15-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 588632)
Can Jordan yes
Ingram no,I think he can be good but no RB on the saints roster will be worth that.

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I disagree, Ingram is a much better back when be doesn't have to share as many carries with other backs. As long as he gets a decent workload he should have a great season.

lee909 04-15-2014 12:50 PM

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I agree to a point but i cannot see the team having a 20-30 carry back with Brees under contract. Ingram may well be a workhorse but in the Saints scheme he will not get that chance. What im getting as is the Saints play with multiple backs and in that system you cant be paying $5ml to one back. You could bring in a short yardage Brandon Jacobs type,a Pierre Thomas and a rookie speedster for that sort of money.

TheOak 04-15-2014 01:15 PM

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How well or how much Ingram plays is irrelevant to this team as far as the $5m goes.

$5m in cap space is 3 RBs to the Saints and they are not going to go down to 1 when they can have depth should we need some... cough(2010)

Ingram has only had 1 healthy season in 3 seasons, so you can bet if we do go down to a $5m/year RB it will not be him. As soon as Sproles hit $3.5m he was gone. Our model doesn't support a $5m RB of any caliber presently.

As far as a $5m RB in this league that gets you a top 10 back. Not happening with Ingram.

Danno 04-15-2014 01:17 PM

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I like Mark Ingram, but I don't give him top 10 RB money.

Wait till after the season and negotiate. I think he knows he'll get fair market value here.

SaintFanInATLHELL 04-15-2014 01:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 588681)
I like Mark Ingram, but I don't give him top 10 RB money.

Wait till after the season and negotiate. I think he knows he'll get fair market value here.

I think it's simpler than that. Ingram needs another year of "Prove it." And even then $5M/year is overpaying at the RB position.

SFIAH

halloween 65 04-15-2014 02:40 PM

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Jordan needs to be locked up on a long term deal. Ingram, I would play him out this season and try to sign him cheap next year. Graham might cost us good players in the long run.

voodooido 04-15-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by joker-saint (Post 588675)
I disagree, Ingram is a much better back when be doesn't have to share as many carries with other backs. As long as he gets a decent workload he should have a great season.

You think Ingram is worth 5.5 million based on the last 3 games of last season? It is due by May 3 so you would be paying this based on 3 games.

WhoDat!656 04-15-2014 08:21 PM

Saints have until May 3rd to extend Jordan, Ingram
 
New Orleans Saints defensive end Cameron Jordan and running back Mark Ingram are entering their fourth years in the NFL, and the team must now decide on whether to extend each before the league's May 3rd deadline.

The deadline for 5th-year extensions came out of the new collective bargaining agreement in 2011, the year both entered the league.

Jordan's extension for 2015 will cost $6.969 million for 2015 and Ingram’s $5.211 million, according to ESPN's John Clayton, who also pointed out that the 2011 draft class was a particularly good one.

That would mean slim pickings on the free agent market in 2015.

Jordan, who made his first Pro Bowl last season with 12.5 sacks, will likely be extended, but the team may pass on Ingram if they can't lower his price.

Per Mike Triplett, ESPN: 'Ingram is less likely to be extended at that price – even though the Saints remain high on his future and could consider re-signing him to a more affordable extension.

Ingram, 24, finished strong last season with an impressive performance in the playoffs. And his role in the Saints’ backfield could increase slightly this year now that the Saints have traded away veteran Darren Sproles. However, Ingram will still be in a timeshare with fellow running backs Pierre Thomas and Khiry Robinson.

Saints have until May 3rd to extend Jordan, Ingram

hagan714 04-16-2014 03:06 AM

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Jordan YES - bargain $6.969 million? hell yeah

Ingram NO - Draft his roster replacement now. i feel real comfortable with saying he is not going to have a break out year and the saints have not built a power line either. draft will tell if the saints are serious about fixing the OL. so till such time gamble away you might be doing the kid a favor.

Khiry Robinson - I am not all aboard that bang wagon either just yet.

So drafting a RB is not that crazy. we have a roster spot open at RB anyways.

WhoDatFan26 04-18-2014 09:41 AM

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Killa Cam is a No Brainer. Ingram may be resigned to a team friendly Contract because Coach Payton likes him and Mark Ingram likes him as well.

Seer1 04-18-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 589005)
Killa Cam is a No Brainer. Ingram may be resigned to a team friendly Contract because Coach Payton likes him and Mark Ingram likes him as well.

Yeah, I'm thinking Mark knows he has much to prove before he can go for the even bigger time bucks. Look for a short term, team friendly contract for him.
Cam? Nuff said...

Rugby Saint II 04-18-2014 11:43 AM

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I'll just repeat what was said above. Cam-oh, hell yes! Ingram-he needs a prove it contract. All the GM's on this board seem to be in agreememnt about where we need to invest our money.

Seer1 04-18-2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 589027)
I'll just repeat what was said above. Cam-oh, hell yes! Ingram-he needs a prove it contract. All the GM's on this board seem to be in agreememnt about where we need to invest our money.

You sent that from the owner's box. I know because I was sitting there too... in the back.

brees84 04-21-2014 02:04 PM

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ScottF 04-23-2014 02:37 PM

Re: May 3 deadline to extend Jordan, Ingram
 
Payton's take:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/payton-...6234--nfl.html


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