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PS - LB, I disagree. :o

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The thing that kills me is there are still people here defending this clown of a QB. Pssssssssttt.....people are laughing, now. Face it, it just isn\'t working. It\'s over. Buh-bye, AB.

Wow! Thanks for the insight. I really see what you\'re driving at here. Damn, what WAS I thinking?

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LB, do you think we should just cut him now and play Bouman? At least THEN no one would be laughing.

Yes, I think we should have done that a long time ago...anybody would be welcome, as far as I\'m concerned. The guy is a loser.

BTW, I can\'t remember who posted about Favre not laughing after a goof, but, fact is, he has been seen doing it. But, given that he has won a ring and 3 MVP\'s, I will overlook that where he is concerned. When AB gets to that point, I will overlook his antics, also.

[Edited on 25/11/2004 by Saint_LB]

Whodi,

As usual good points (as to you too mutineer). I have replied to mutineer as to the point of my comparison, and I think you\'ll see it too, Whodi, if you read it. It is a small point, not the one you guys keep saying doesn\'t make sense (SINCE I AGREE THAT BEYOND MY POINT THE COMPARISON IS USELESS - man, Whodat, I\'m starting to see why you stopped to say that you didn\'t think Brooks was the biggest problem, I\'m starting to feel like Danno too now).

If you read the argument I made, you\'ll see that I was NOT saying this:

Brooks = Farve

What I was saying was this:

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Farve throws bad passes and makes huge mental errors :: Brooks throws bad passes and makes huge mental errors. You\'ve just made my point for me - if GB can win with Farve and he does these stupid things, then NO can win with Brooks when he does these stupid things.

CERTAINLY, there are other great things about Farve that are not great things about Brooks, but that does not negate the fact that a team CAN win even when a QB has a brain caniption once or twice a game, and that is the reason for comparing the two - NOTHING MORE.

I\'m just not sure at what point I stopped being clear that I don\'t think that they are comparable on any other feature than this feature, but apparently I did.

[Edited on 25/11/2004 by JKool]

We can all see by now AB is not the future of this team. If you have a great QB and the rest of the team sucks you can still win games, by the QB not making mental mistakes.

AB should be leaving on the bus with Haz.

Cherm,

You\'re alive! Good to see you pal.

Look I never said that AB was the future. What I said is we have bigger fish to fry in the short run. BMG made a good point about AB\'s cost, financially speaking, and I take that to be an interesting argument, but I haven\'t heard anything else of note (other than that Farve is better than Brooks, wow, that was a news flash, yikes, I\'m still reeling in shock...)

LB,

I just can\'t bring myself to think that Bouman would be better. I mean just look at how he performed in the preseason. At least AB can throw it past the third stringers - we have won a few games this year!

I also don\'t remember people saying that he doesn\'t laugh/smile; I do recall someone saying it doesn\'t happen as often this year, but I don\'t remember where I read that.

On a related point, I can see why people get frustrated with these really long thread. I\'ve now had to repeat myself several times. If you want to criticize the view, go back and read the other posts, that is where the view was presented.

PS - GB has won two games this year in which Farve has made two to three serious mental errors. I saw these games.

Oh yeah, and

:dancingmonkey:

What\'s up Kool, just saying some serious changes need to be made and that starts with the QB and Coach, the so-called leaders of the team. Bouman is not even a 2nd QB in my book and they should have cut him along time ago and kept JT. They should go out and sign a big time QB and Coach at all cost and let the rest of the team get in line.

Cherm, waz up wit choo?

I agree that big changes need to be made, it is just my view that QB is somewhat further down the list than people have been saying. See the post by WhoDat earlier in this thread - I most agree with him on this.

Kool, you brought Favre onto it. I think the fact that Favre was brought into it is automatically gonna make people poo-poo it all the way around. The feeling is, you can not compare the two in any way. You say people are misunderstanding because you said \"I wanna compare them on this one standard alone\" when there is more to that standard. Your argument was they both make bone-headed plays but Favre\'s are acceptable and they still win, and mine was Favre\'s are acceptable cause he holds himself accountable for his. How did that in any way veer from what you were saying?

Also, if you think the Packers have a good defense, I give you the Titans game and Colts game as examples. Their defense has been awful this year. Yet they still win cause of their qb. Hhhhmmm....

Back to the first point, you don\'t think that if someone said \"Brooks is like Peyton Manning in that they are both quarterbacks\" people wouldn\'t jump on them for making ANY comparison between Manning and Brooks? They would. You introduced the idea of comparing Favre to Brooks in any way, so naturally there are consequences as Brooks should not be compared to Favre in any way, good or bad.

[Edited on 25/11/2004 by saintswhodi]

the fact brooks said \"i come here to do what is asked of me anf GET OUT OF HERE\" shows he doesnt give a sh@t.....

and buffalo has JP Losman, and he is going to be a great QB