Brooks

WhoDat · 11-21-2004, 05:00 PM

Two underhanded "passes" to no one. You know, I don't think our line is playing great by any means, but I think the pressure is AB's fault as much if not more than the line's. On the second series of the game the Broncos blitzed on an overload left (the o-line's right). Deuce and Conwell saw it and we picked it up - four hats on four hats. AB sees it and does what? Rolls directly into the blitz.... then has to dance, backpedal and throw it away. Simply sliding away from the blitz into open space and open throwing lanes would have been fine. He created his own pressure.

On the next series I saw him take a three step drop and look - the route must not have been there b/c he tensed and then looked away. Now, it's a 3 step drop. You know you have to get the ball out. AB back pedals, pumps, pumps, gets sacked and throws some risky and just bad pass in the dirt while being hit. That's HIS fault. Not the line's. I feel confident that AB makes the line look worse than it is by making poor decisions.

spkb25 · 11-21-2004, 05:27 PM

we suck all around n i dont think that we can blame brooks or anyone else we just suck

blake6900 · 11-21-2004, 06:46 PM

Two underhanded \"passes\" to no one. You know, I don\'t think our line is playing great by any means, but I think the pressure is AB\'s fault as much if not more than the line\'s. On the second series of the game the Broncos blitzed on an overload left (the o-line\'s right). Deuce and Conwell saw it and we picked it up - four hats on four hats. AB sees it and does what? Rolls directly into the blitz.... then has to dance, backpedal and throw it away. Simply sliding away from the blitz into open space and open throwing lanes would have been fine. He created his own pressure.

On the next series I saw him take a three step drop and look - the route must not have been there b/c he tensed and then looked away. Now, it\'s a 3 step drop. You know you have to get the ball out. AB back pedals, pumps, pumps, gets sacked and throws some risky and just bad pass in the dirt while being hit. That\'s HIS fault. Not the line\'s. I feel confident that AB makes the line look worse than it is by making poor decisions.

Now, now...that\'s no way to talk about a \"top 5 quarterback\" whose ability went to hell the minute he signed a fat \"top 5\" contract.

We keep going down the same road with Brooks. He simply can\'t read a defense. When he came off the bench and started he surprised a lot of people. After that playoff year was over, he surprised no one. Defenses only respect his ability to throw the long ball. So they change up their schemes to fool him and it works. The Saints give him no real audibles to call because frankly he\'s too dense to know when to call which play. The defense stacks up the line, Brooks calls an A gap run...good for no gain. He can read coverages before the play starts (who can\'t?) but unfortunately he can\'t read them after the play has begun. He just can\'t think on his feet. And let\'s face it, kids, a quarterback who is only successful when he\'s got six or seven seconds to throw the ball isn\'t really gonna cut it in the NFL. At least not for very long.

Defenses don\'t even respect him as a run threat anymore. We don\'t hear talk about Brooks\' scrambling ability. He scares no one. This guy <strike>has</strike> had all the ability in the world and no brain to go with it. That\'s why no other team wanted him. That why the Packers let him go for a no-name tight end. McCarthy knew him in Green Bay and wanted him anyway. That says a lot about McCarthy. But what good is a quarterback that can\'t figure out square pegs don\'t go into round holes. The Packers weren\'t crying in their beers when they sent Brooks packing. The Green Bay newspapers weren\'t questioning the move. It wasn\'t even a blip on their Richter scale. To the Packers and the Packer community, losing Brooks was no great loss.

And that, of course, is the bigger problem with this organization. They keep going after too many players no other teams want. Tebucky Jones, Aaron Brooks, Johnathan Sullivan, Orlando Ruff, Victor Riley, Ashley Ambrose, Wayne Gandy, etc. Sure there was the diamond in the rough with Joe Horn but all in all this bunch doesn\'t know football personnel and, frankly, never will.

Mark my words...when Brooks becomes available, no other team will sign him to be its\' starting QB. He has no football saavy, can\'t read defenses, has little or no leadership skills, no pocket presence and isn\'t very intelligent-other than that, how was the play, Mr. Lincoln? What he does have is a strong arm with a very slow delivery who announced to the world he wanted to be known as a pocket passer, not a scrambling quarterback. We\'ve seen how far the strong arm with the slow delivery has gotten us, haven\'t we? And the \"pocket passer\" statement should have been our first clue this guy was a dunce. Now we\'re stuck with passes to nobody, passes behind and passes to offensive linemen. Other than that, we\'re doin\' great.

Time to rebuild once again...

WhoDat · 11-21-2004, 06:50 PM

we suck all around n i dont think that we can blame brooks or anyone else we just suck

I\'m not suggesting that AB is the reason we stink. I\'m just making an observation. I forgot to mention - almost all of his passes are two feet over the head of his WRs and usually a foot behind them too.

I like Blake\'s post. I think he\'s on to something here.

bayouking318 · 11-21-2004, 08:19 PM

It is very clear, Our defense ,,hmmm i can\'t think of a adjective that will be close to say what i think about it :realmad:

[Edited on 11/22/2004 by Halo]

TheJudge · 11-21-2004, 11:56 PM

hehehe, AB started to play a bit better when they had Bouman put his helmet on and warmed up.... maybe we should scare brooks the rest of the year...

G504 · 11-22-2004, 12:21 AM

I seriously think Brooks is blind in one eye or deaf in one ear, or both. But I think Brooks is worth keeping around. Brooks is gonna fumble. He\'s gonna throw an interception. But if our defense was at least average, we could over come that. The guy puts up numbers, even in a loss, even in a loss he\'s (at least partly) responsible for. I mean, look around fellas (and ladies). Who are we jelous of? Feely? Ramsey? Green? Krenzel? Collins?

xan · 11-22-2004, 01:35 AM

When was the last time the Saints had a quarterback?

Bobby Hebert, game as he was, couldn\'t throw a quick out or heave it long, and was only in games because of a tenacious defense that gave him decent field position. Plus, he had good coaching.

Please don\'t tell me Archie, because we won\'t ever know how good he could have been given all the problems.

So, given that the franchise has gone 0 for 37 in years without a quarterback, I\'d trade Sullivan, Jones, Brooks and a draft pick for the rights to any of the potentially available proven candidates with at least 2 brain cells to rub together.

By the way, who are these so-called \"available candidates?\"

Halo · 11-22-2004, 01:48 AM

It is very clear, Our defense ,,hmmm i can\'t think of a adjective that will be close to say what i think about it :realmad:

[Edited on 11/22/2004 by Halo]

Sorry bayouking, it looks like I edited your post but I didn\'t, I accidentally hit edit instead of Quote...

Our defense is last in the NFL and it does have talent on the line and some in the secondary. I think in my opinion that\'s enough for at least one coordinator to lose his job, don\'t you think?

blake6900 · 11-22-2004, 12:44 PM

I seriously think Brooks is blind in one eye or deaf in one ear, or both. But I think Brooks is worth keeping around. Brooks is gonna fumble. He\'s gonna throw an interception. But if our defense was at least average, we could over come that. The guy puts up numbers, even in a loss, even in a loss he\'s (at least partly) responsible for. I mean, look around fellas (and ladies). Who are we jelous of? Feely? Ramsey? Green? Krenzel? Collins?

Stats don\'t win games. Brooks has always had good stats...unfortunately they come when it\'s meaningless. He can\'t throw an out, he can\'t throw a screen, he can\'t throw any touch passes. Oh, and he never seems to get the importance of not making mistakes. The team should immediately look for a replacement.

11-21-2004, 05:00 PM	#1
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Brooks Two underhanded "passes" to no one. You know, I don't think our line is playing great by any means, but I think the pressure is AB's fault as much if not more than the line's. On the second series of the game the Broncos blitzed on an overload left (the o-line's right). Deuce and Conwell saw it and we picked it up - four hats on four hats. AB sees it and does what? Rolls directly into the blitz.... then has to dance, backpedal and throw it away. Simply sliding away from the blitz into open space and open throwing lanes would have been fine. He created his own pressure. On the next series I saw him take a three step drop and look - the route must not have been there b/c he tensed and then looked away. Now, it's a 3 step drop. You know you have to get the ball out. AB back pedals, pumps, pumps, gets sacked and throws some risky and just bad pass in the dirt while being hit. That's HIS fault. Not the line's. I feel confident that AB makes the line look worse than it is by making poor decisions.
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11-21-2004, 05:27 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Brooks we suck all around n i dont think that we can blame brooks or anyone else we just suck

11-21-2004, 06:46 PM	#3
blake6900 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 182	Brooks Two underhanded \"passes\" to no one. You know, I don\'t think our line is playing great by any means, but I think the pressure is AB\'s fault as much if not more than the line\'s. On the second series of the game the Broncos blitzed on an overload left (the o-line\'s right). Deuce and Conwell saw it and we picked it up - four hats on four hats. AB sees it and does what? Rolls directly into the blitz.... then has to dance, backpedal and throw it away. Simply sliding away from the blitz into open space and open throwing lanes would have been fine. He created his own pressure. On the next series I saw him take a three step drop and look - the route must not have been there b/c he tensed and then looked away. Now, it\'s a 3 step drop. You know you have to get the ball out. AB back pedals, pumps, pumps, gets sacked and throws some risky and just bad pass in the dirt while being hit. That\'s HIS fault. Not the line\'s. I feel confident that AB makes the line look worse than it is by making poor decisions. Now, now...that\'s no way to talk about a \"top 5 quarterback\" whose ability went to hell the minute he signed a fat \"top 5\" contract. We keep going down the same road with Brooks. He simply can\'t read a defense. When he came off the bench and started he surprised a lot of people. After that playoff year was over, he surprised no one. Defenses only respect his ability to throw the long ball. So they change up their schemes to fool him and it works. The Saints give him no real audibles to call because frankly he\'s too dense to know when to call which play. The defense stacks up the line, Brooks calls an A gap run...good for no gain. He can read coverages before the play starts (who can\'t?) but unfortunately he can\'t read them after the play has begun. He just can\'t think on his feet. And let\'s face it, kids, a quarterback who is only successful when he\'s got six or seven seconds to throw the ball isn\'t really gonna cut it in the NFL. At least not for very long. Defenses don\'t even respect him as a run threat anymore. We don\'t hear talk about Brooks\' scrambling ability. He scares no one. This guy <strike>has</strike> had all the ability in the world and no brain to go with it. That\'s why no other team wanted him. That why the Packers let him go for a no-name tight end. McCarthy knew him in Green Bay and wanted him anyway. That says a lot about McCarthy. But what good is a quarterback that can\'t figure out square pegs don\'t go into round holes. The Packers weren\'t crying in their beers when they sent Brooks packing. The Green Bay newspapers weren\'t questioning the move. It wasn\'t even a blip on their Richter scale. To the Packers and the Packer community, losing Brooks was no great loss. And that, of course, is the bigger problem with this organization. They keep going after too many players no other teams want. Tebucky Jones, Aaron Brooks, Johnathan Sullivan, Orlando Ruff, Victor Riley, Ashley Ambrose, Wayne Gandy, etc. Sure there was the diamond in the rough with Joe Horn but all in all this bunch doesn\'t know football personnel and, frankly, never will. Mark my words...when Brooks becomes available, no other team will sign him to be its\' starting QB. He has no football saavy, can\'t read defenses, has little or no leadership skills, no pocket presence and isn\'t very intelligent-other than that, how was the play, Mr. Lincoln? What he does have is a strong arm with a very slow delivery who announced to the world he wanted to be known as a pocket passer, not a scrambling quarterback. We\'ve seen how far the strong arm with the slow delivery has gotten us, haven\'t we? And the \"pocket passer\" statement should have been our first clue this guy was a dunce. Now we\'re stuck with passes to nobody, passes behind and passes to offensive linemen. Other than that, we\'re doin\' great. Time to rebuild once again...
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11-21-2004, 06:50 PM	#4
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Brooks we suck all around n i dont think that we can blame brooks or anyone else we just suck I\'m not suggesting that AB is the reason we stink. I\'m just making an observation. I forgot to mention - almost all of his passes are two feet over the head of his WRs and usually a foot behind them too. I like Blake\'s post. I think he\'s on to something here.
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11-21-2004, 08:19 PM	#5
bayouking318 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 209	Brooks It is very clear, Our defense ,,hmmm i can\'t think of a adjective that will be close to say what i think about it :realmad: [Edited on 11/22/2004 by Halo]

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11-21-2004, 11:56 PM	#6
TheJudge 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 100	Brooks hehehe, AB started to play a bit better when they had Bouman put his helmet on and warmed up.... maybe we should scare brooks the rest of the year...
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11-22-2004, 12:21 AM	#7
G504 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 424	Brooks I seriously think Brooks is blind in one eye or deaf in one ear, or both. But I think Brooks is worth keeping around. Brooks is gonna fumble. He\'s gonna throw an interception. But if our defense was at least average, we could over come that. The guy puts up numbers, even in a loss, even in a loss he\'s (at least partly) responsible for. I mean, look around fellas (and ladies). Who are we jelous of? Feely? Ramsey? Green? Krenzel? Collins?

11-22-2004, 01:35 AM	#8
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	Brooks When was the last time the Saints had a quarterback? Bobby Hebert, game as he was, couldn\'t throw a quick out or heave it long, and was only in games because of a tenacious defense that gave him decent field position. Plus, he had good coaching. Please don\'t tell me Archie, because we won\'t ever know how good he could have been given all the problems. So, given that the franchise has gone 0 for 37 in years without a quarterback, I\'d trade Sullivan, Jones, Brooks and a draft pick for the rights to any of the potentially available proven candidates with at least 2 brain cells to rub together. By the way, who are these so-called \"available candidates?\"
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11-22-2004, 01:48 AM	#9
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,725 Blog Entries: 45	Brooks It is very clear, Our defense ,,hmmm i can\'t think of a adjective that will be close to say what i think about it :realmad: [Edited on 11/22/2004 by Halo] Sorry bayouking, it looks like I edited your post but I didn\'t, I accidentally hit edit instead of Quote... Our defense is last in the NFL and it does have talent on the line and some in the secondary. I think in my opinion that\'s enough for at least one coordinator to lose his job, don\'t you think?

11-22-2004, 12:44 PM	#10
blake6900 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 182	Brooks I seriously think Brooks is blind in one eye or deaf in one ear, or both. But I think Brooks is worth keeping around. Brooks is gonna fumble. He\'s gonna throw an interception. But if our defense was at least average, we could over come that. The guy puts up numbers, even in a loss, even in a loss he\'s (at least partly) responsible for. I mean, look around fellas (and ladies). Who are we jelous of? Feely? Ramsey? Green? Krenzel? Collins? Stats don\'t win games. Brooks has always had good stats...unfortunately they come when it\'s meaningless. He can\'t throw an out, he can\'t throw a screen, he can\'t throw any touch passes. Oh, and he never seems to get the importance of not making mistakes. The team should immediately look for a replacement.
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