Ricky Williams Type Trade

ScottF · 04-18-2014, 11:40 PM

With FA and the salary cap, teams do not build through the draft like in years past. Look at our roster- only about 1/3 were actually drafted by the Saints. Teams get impatient, or players only sign 3-4 year rookie deals, and they are gone. The draft is still important, but rookies aren't going out and getting team tattoos anymore.

So, as for the OP, would I trade our entire draft for a 25 year old Calvin Johnson? Yes.
Except he is 28. Watt? Keuchly? I would say yes again. I'll take proven talent over a risk any day, especially since FA seems to be more of Loomis' forte

amazin15 · 04-19-2014, 12:10 AM

I wouldn't trade all my picks for a player but I would trade my 1-4 for Megatron, Watt, Kuechly, Bowman, Alonso or Peterson and trust Loomis and Payton to do what they do just about every year and find some gems with our late round picks..

saintsfan403 · 04-19-2014, 01:08 AM

Off topic, but since this seems like an anything goes off-season thread I'm gonna say it here:
Is anyone else confused by people talking about how great the bucs are gonna be this year? Granted it would be hard for them to get worse than last year, but they signed undersized pass rushers and a game managing qb. Granted they got a decent corner (I stress decent) but only after they cut the guy who they traded the D-ROY pick for...f*ck sakes.

Michigan_SF · 04-19-2014, 01:36 AM

5 failcon picks to move up 5 spots for clowney. That will help Saints more than the Saints going all Ricky Williams again.

lee909 · 04-19-2014, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

Off topic, but since this seems like an anything goes off-season thread I'm gonna say it here:
Is anyone else confused by people talking about how great the bucs are gonna be this year? Granted it would be hard for them to get worse than last year, but they signed undersized pass rushers and a game managing qb. Granted they got a decent corner (I stress decent) but only after they cut the guy who they traded the D-ROY pick for...f*ck sakes.

I think they will be good, not division winning good but a big step up grom last year. Well they will be if Lovie puts the players back in place and stops the inmates running the show.

hagan714 · 04-19-2014, 07:32 AM

trade up for one player in this draft? Greg Robinson

ChrisXVI · 04-19-2014, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

Off topic, but since this seems like an anything goes off-season thread I'm gonna say it here:
Is anyone else confused by people talking about how great the bucs are gonna be this year? Granted it would be hard for them to get worse than last year, but they signed undersized pass rushers and a game managing qb. Granted they got a decent corner (I stress decent) but only after they cut the guy who they traded the D-ROY pick for...f*ck sakes.

I haven't heard a single person say that the Bucs are gonna be good this year, let alone great. Most people seem to agree that Lovie Smith doesn't know jack about offense and that Josh McCown looking good last season was strictly a result of Trestman's coaching. I've heard more about how the Failclowns have improved by signing run-stopping D-Linemen and a guard who was benched last season despite how they needed pass-rushers and offensive tackles.

hagan714 · 04-19-2014, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I haven't heard a single person say that the Bucs are gonna be good this year, let alone great. Most people seem to agree that Lovie Smith doesn't know jack about offense and that Josh McCown looking good last season was strictly a result of Trestman's coaching. I've heard more about how the Failclowns have improved by signing run-stopping D-Linemen and a guard who was benched last season despite how they needed pass-rushers and offensive tackles.

NFL channel had a show were 3 out 4 of the people picked the bucs to win the south, Lovie Smith love i guess. the bucs have a ton of talent and Smith might be what the doctor order to get that teams head screwed on straight. keep an eye on the bucs for sure

ChrisXVI · 04-19-2014, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

NFL channel had a show were 3 out 4 of the people picked the bucs to win the south, Lovie Smith love i guess. the bucs have a ton of talent and Smith might be what the doctor order to get that teams head screwed on straight. keep an eye on the bucs for sure

I guess that's why I hadn't heard any love for the Bucs... I don't watch the NFL Network and that just proves why.

hagan714 · 04-19-2014, 07:59 AM

i was giggling a bit too when i heard it. but the bucs aint bad

carolina appears to be imploding. clowns? never now

04-18-2014, 11:40 PM	#11
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Ricky Williams Type Trade With FA and the salary cap, teams do not build through the draft like in years past. Look at our roster- only about 1/3 were actually drafted by the Saints. Teams get impatient, or players only sign 3-4 year rookie deals, and they are gone. The draft is still important, but rookies aren't going out and getting team tattoos anymore. So, as for the OP, would I trade our entire draft for a 25 year old Calvin Johnson? Yes. Except he is 28. Watt? Keuchly? I would say yes again. I'll take proven talent over a risk any day, especially since FA seems to be more of Loomis' forte

04-19-2014, 12:10 AM	#12
amazin15 Registered Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Monroe, LA Posts: 98	Re: Ricky Williams Type Trade I wouldn't trade all my picks for a player but I would trade my 1-4 for Megatron, Watt, Kuechly, Bowman, Alonso or Peterson and trust Loomis and Payton to do what they do just about every year and find some gems with our late round picks..

04-19-2014, 01:08 AM	#13
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Ricky Williams Type Trade Off topic, but since this seems like an anything goes off-season thread I'm gonna say it here: Is anyone else confused by people talking about how great the bucs are gonna be this year? Granted it would be hard for them to get worse than last year, but they signed undersized pass rushers and a game managing qb. Granted they got a decent corner (I stress decent) but only after they cut the guy who they traded the D-ROY pick for...f*ck sakes. hagan714 likes this.

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04-19-2014, 03:53 AM	#15
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Ricky Williams Type Trade Originally Posted by saintsfan403 Off topic, but since this seems like an anything goes off-season thread I'm gonna say it here: Is anyone else confused by people talking about how great the bucs are gonna be this year? Granted it would be hard for them to get worse than last year, but they signed undersized pass rushers and a game managing qb. Granted they got a decent corner (I stress decent) but only after they cut the guy who they traded the D-ROY pick for...f*ck sakes. I think they will be good, not division winning good but a big step up grom last year. Well they will be if Lovie puts the players back in place and stops the inmates running the show.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Ricky Williams Type Trade Originally Posted by saintsfan403 Off topic, but since this seems like an anything goes off-season thread I'm gonna say it here: Is anyone else confused by people talking about how great the bucs are gonna be this year? Granted it would be hard for them to get worse than last year, but they signed undersized pass rushers and a game managing qb. Granted they got a decent corner (I stress decent) but only after they cut the guy who they traded the D-ROY pick for...f*ck sakes. I haven't heard a single person say that the Bucs are gonna be good this year, let alone great. Most people seem to agree that Lovie Smith doesn't know jack about offense and that Josh McCown looking good last season was strictly a result of Trestman's coaching. I've heard more about how the Failclowns have improved by signing run-stopping D-Linemen and a guard who was benched last season despite how they needed pass-rushers and offensive tackles. jeanpierre likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Ricky Williams Type Trade Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I haven't heard a single person say that the Bucs are gonna be good this year, let alone great. Most people seem to agree that Lovie Smith doesn't know jack about offense and that Josh McCown looking good last season was strictly a result of Trestman's coaching. I've heard more about how the Failclowns have improved by signing run-stopping D-Linemen and a guard who was benched last season despite how they needed pass-rushers and offensive tackles. NFL channel had a show were 3 out 4 of the people picked the bucs to win the south, Lovie Smith love i guess. the bucs have a ton of talent and Smith might be what the doctor order to get that teams head screwed on straight. keep an eye on the bucs for sure saintsfan403 likes this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Ricky Williams Type Trade Originally Posted by hagan714 NFL channel had a show were 3 out 4 of the people picked the bucs to win the south, Lovie Smith love i guess. the bucs have a ton of talent and Smith might be what the doctor order to get that teams head screwed on straight. keep an eye on the bucs for sure I guess that's why I hadn't heard any love for the Bucs... I don't watch the NFL Network and that just proves why. hagan714 and saintsfan403 like this.

04-19-2014, 07:59 AM	#20
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Ricky Williams Type Trade i was giggling a bit too when i heard it. but the bucs aint bad carolina appears to be imploding. clowns? never now

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