Triplett trades up
 

Mike Triplet Trades up from 27-19 grabs Brandon cooks
gives up a 3rd and 6th to move up


This was my reaction.
MIKE Triplett You Have needs at WR and a Center. How you gonna get both of those filled with Quality players if you trade up? If trade down and you can get them both in the 2nd round. K.Benjamin at say 35 and with our original 2nd can get Marcus martin more than likely or something similar. Just sayin do this The LOOMIS WAY

We already have a 5'10" WR in Stills keep that in mind

what you guys think
I want more Picks in this Draft as Deep as it is not less

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Pick a Center in the 2nd, 4th or either 5th?

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No to trade up or down. There is plenty of quality at #27. And more than in the early 2nd or 3rd round. Stay put and help the team.

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There is a chance that Cooks is there at #27. Otherwise, there will be stud CB or LB. Stay put.

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Mike drafted like Payton/Loomis do. BPA, your needs are moot.

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With Gilbert, Shazier ,Fuller still on the board I do not think he was BPA certainly not enough to trade up for

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The offense struggled at times last year and could really do with the explosiveness of somebody like Cooks.We need somebody to scare the living daylights out of teams the way Sproles did two years ago,somebody that can turn a 10 yard quick pass into a 60 yard gain. If the offense moves as slowly as it did at times last year and stalls we are screwed when the chips are down. I like it,we have a good roster so be aggressive and get the players you want,do not make do.With the amount of teams who want to move down its pretty cheap to move up.

Id be happy to trade 1/3/6 for a OBJ,Cooks and then BPA again in the second and fourth and packaging the two 5ths to move into the 4th for the right player and go grab the best UFA again.Four good players is better than 3 good and 4 mediocre/potential

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I'd go best player available. If we're talking need, we need offense. Our offense held us back in all the big games.

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Offense held us back in both seattle games, and vs rams, patriots (couldnt get one first down) jets game (same again) and vs carolina in week 16

Our offense needs the pick in my opinion

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I think they should trade Graham for a first and second. Then we would have 1,1,2,2,3,4,5,5,and6....I think we could build a team with that:)

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Please read the 27 trade Graham threads.

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Saints have had few draft picks as compared to nfl average.The draft is deep at wr take one at 27th pick or 58th pick or trade down to early 2nd round but do not trade up.Saints need to get younger an cheaper this is how patriots an 49ers have done they averaged almost double the amount of total draft picks as compared to Saints.They need a wr/olb/saftey/a big 3-4 deffensive lineman/a back up left tackle an a lineman who can back up or push letio at the guard-center position along with a scat back running back.That takes 7 picks a trade down to get say 2 more picks to be used on a qb and another wr or other position for depth.Point is Saint need all the picks they can get do not get hung up on a player a trade from 27th to say 19th most likely a 19 th pick not a world class player.

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Loomis and Payton are like Viking warriors. They take what they want. If we like a guy enough and he's within (or out of) reach - they'll trade.

I fully expect to see us trade up at least into round 3

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If BPA was a science, most draft boards would look alike.

They don't.

Your BPA depends a lot on the team and what you want to do with him.

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I have no problem with a trade up, especially if its only a 3rd rounder.

Losing that 3rd rounder isn't going to hurt especially if we end up getting a player that we're convinced is special.

Quality over quantity.

We burned 2 picks to get Jenkins, that worked out well for us.

Everyone wants to trade down, especially teams with numerous holes to fill. We aren't a team with numerous holes to fill. It will be cheaper to trade up this year than just about any draft in recent memory.

I could also see a lot of position swaps instead of straight up trades...
We could give up our 2nd, 3rd, 4th for another teams 3rd, 4th 5th in order to move up in the 1st. We'd still have the same number of picks, just maybe a half-round later.

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Err... No.

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Let's see the most WR loaded draft in the history of the draft and you trade up to get a WR? Yes that makes sense......only if you rode the short bus to and from school.

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Aint nobody got time for that!

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Cliff notes:

He can't be traded.

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Did not know that...guess I should read more Graham threads.

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I'd stick with the cliff notes.

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we are not hurting that bad to make the move.

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I agree with Danno. We don't have enough holes to be trying so hard to fill them. Everybody wants to build a team that has no holes. Impossible. Every team does. Even the super bowl winners.

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I would be like most and only trade up for Watkins. (If at all) he is the only one that i would trade up for, we could still get a impact player at 27. So there is no need to go up. Down yes up no. But thats just me.

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Mike Evans would be worth trading up for. Brees would make that boy a star.

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A#1 WR is a prime need it might be the time to roll the dice . Might want to double down and pick two.Maybe even three. Loomis gets what he wants.

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best player available.

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There is the rub. there how many WR in round 1 that deserve that title?

i count maybe 1.

as #2 there are what 2 maybe 3?

specialty WR / slot another 2 ?

pass. pray one maybe 2 QB gets draft in the top 26 then kidnap the best one on the board and hold him for ransom.

now that is a better plan in my book as long as it is not a QB named Johnny

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Lets look at the holes others post the saints do not have,1st hole at wr a colston ageing-morgan comming off back to back ir-toon could be a bust-is cadet someone to replace sproles skill set-watson age at te position-no backup left tackle byrce an marcel are right tackles now the back up left tackle is a ex arena player.no back up center to push letio-a kicker at end of line age wise hope he has another year-6 big d linemen no depth saints keep 7 at position-only 4 safteys on roster think they keep 5 so need a 5th saftey-you always look to up grade the 5th cb spot that takes up a draft pick-two olb coming off ir no quality depth-is it time to draft a qb yes they like the tulane qb but good to have a late pick to compete with the tulane qb if both look good in camp then cut the vet back up younger an cheaper if not one gos to pt squad till next year. That a lot of HOLES you could use 12 picks two alone at wr to up grade roster an now they have 7 picks. Some wish a trade up that could leave them with 5 picks no TRADE ups we need trade downs- go from 7 to say 9 picks hope for three ufda gems an upgrade roster get younger an cheaper young players also less likely to get hurt but you need enough rookies of top quality to allow this long term up grade of roster.Do not get hung up on one player look at the overall roster depth ::bng::stupid::dunce::eek:

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Do we know that Allen Robinson is a Megatron? Paul Richardson? No, in fact defenses I would say has gotten weaker in the Big 10 which is why I am not high at all on Roby. We need to see how those players will do against NFL competition. Pac 12 has produced NFL talent, so has the big 12, and SEC. ACC sort of has.

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I can't imagine any real life scenario where the Saints would trade up for Cooks. I don't even want the guy period. Not because he isn't any good, but because he reminds me of the type of receiver we always seem to find without spending a high draft choice. But trade up for him? I don't think so.

If the Saints are dead set on picking a WR then I think there are more than enough good one's and none of them are clear cut better than the rest (other than MAYBE Watkins) to where there shouldn't be any need to trade up for one.

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Did we know megatron was a megaton before he got into the league and showed the world? The answer is no! You Draft on potential not proven NFL production, you must be thinking of free agency. Find one person that says this draft isn't loaded with WR's. Unless you're getting Watkins it makes no sense to trade up for a WR and you would have to give up too much to get high enough to get him. Besides with Breese you don't need one super star WR. Your better off keeping the picks and raising the odds of success finding a high quality WR by drafting more than one.

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Most overrated player in the draft.

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The draft is consistently the unexpected... Which is why we have 50,000 mock drafts and none are 100% accurate. :)

Honestly, who was the last person the Saints drafted that you knew was going to be drafted before they called his name?

There is no logic to apply, its mostly guessing, which is why no one does 1 mock draft and sticks to it.

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History shows us that the FO is more than willing to move up in the draft for a player they covet. They rarely move back in the draft but they have been known to do it.
I would definitely not trade away our 3rd round pick because that is where we seem to hit gold.

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I think given the history I expect Loomis to not go after Lee or Roby just because of being burned by players from those two schools in the past. I'm expecting Cooks, Ford, or Verret who will be among the BPAs.

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Megatron was drafted second overall(or third) so a lot was expected of him. It took three years for him to come on but that had a lot to do with Roy Williams and the QB position. He was also in the ACC a conference who has players that at the time needed more development. And after what happened last year we DO need a superstar wide receiver. The NFC is no longer defenseless, we have challenges and we have to face those with players that will step up in critical moments. We know Graham cannot! And that PF can be a recurring problem. And we have to stop thinking of what brees did in 08, 09, 11 he is already being disrespected because he didnt make as many big plays as the other three did last year. He couldn't throw the deep ball(due to Brown of course). There was a play last year against Seattle where Meachem catches a huge pass that goes over a defender. If that was a better receiver, that is a touchdown. Stills coudn't make the catch on a deep pass Drew threw against the eagles and that got picked off. We do need a superstar receiver.

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I disagree with the last part. Anyone can guess. It's no secret that none of us can know exactly what will happen, but there is certainly logic that can be applied. Cooks is just a slot type guy. Those are a dime a dozen in today's NFL. You put small, fast guys in the right system and watch them go. There's no reason to trade up in the first round for one. If we're going to draft a WR in the first, at all, it would make far more sense to go with more of an outside threat.

That's my logic, and I AM sticking to it. All this mock crap gets on my nerves.

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we will take the best player available. hopefully a de/olb type or CB. we already have plenty of weapons on offense. will need someone to replace colston and a center

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When I say there is no logic applied it is because there is no 1 logic. Essentially 26 different logic's will pick before we will and that many is anarchy :). It has also been said that in the case of Mark Ingram, an emotional purchase was made because Sean Payton's kid liked him... So there is no way to map out how any 1 team will draft, much less 32.

The opposite is also true, ever see a group of emo teenagers all in black with makeup etc? They are all striving to be different, however they just end up creating a new same because they are all sharing the same logic.