NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says

05-07-2014, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Ohhh the irony..

Employer and employee want to get to work. Big Union battles Big Corporation on their behalf to decide how the job description should read.

Interesting that Jimmy, the Saints, and Sexton are somewhat just an audience as DeMaurice Smith tries to get reelected.

Exactly. This is all on the NFLPA and the league. Those of you calling for Graham's head are way off base. Graham is going to get basically the same compensation regardless of the outcome because he won't be playing under a franchise tag. I'll guarantee you he simply wants to play, but this whole thing was inevitable, much as was Brees' situation where the NFLPA tested the multiple tag under different franchises. The outcome of the arbitration will give either Graham's agent or Loomis a extra it of leverage, but a deal was going to be made regardless.

Do not take any of this personally. It is not that big of a deal.

Marlboro Man · 05-07-2014, 01:21 PM

No one player is more important than the team. Not Drew Brees, not Jimmy Graham. Still, I'd stand firm on 2 first rounders for Jimmy and not one penny less. As for Jimmy, he can play for the tag and play for it again next year too I believe or he can sit until the Saints trade him. Personally, I see this huge dude that can't block, can't stand up to Safties or CB's and gets taken out of important game way too easily. It's one thing to dominate the lesser teams, but if you're all that, you should dominate the good teams too. Sorry, but to me Jimmy isn't worth WR money and is barely worth the top TE money until I see him dominate anyone he plays and he should because of his measurables. If we didn't have to tag him, I'd offer him 5-6 mil a year till he proved himself.

exile · 05-07-2014, 01:23 PM

Shouldn't this title solve the situation?

@TheJimmyGraham

New Orleans Saints Tight End

https://twitter.com/TheJimmyGraham

ScottF · 05-07-2014, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Exactly. This is all on the NFLPA and the league. Those of you calling for Graham's head are way off base. Graham is going to get basically the same compensation regardless of the outcome because he won't be playing under a franchise tag. I'll guarantee you he simply wants to play, but this whole thing was inevitable, much as was Brees' situation where the NFLPA tested the multiple tag under different franchises. The outcome of the arbitration will give either Graham's agent or Loomis a extra it of leverage, but a deal was going to be made regardless.

Do not take any of this personally. It is not that big of a deal.

The PA is probably propping Jimmy up so they can get the designations changed. They see him as the ideal poster boy for hybrid positions.

Also, let's not forget the pages and pages of threads condemning Brees when he went thru his negotiations

Ashley · 05-07-2014, 02:23 PM

Tight end. done......

Rugby Saint II · 05-07-2014, 02:23 PM

We all knew this was a possibility. Take a deep breath. Go to your happy place and relax.

TheOak · 05-07-2014, 02:29 PM

saintshrimp · 05-07-2014, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Well said

Papa Voodoo · 05-07-2014, 03:04 PM

Why didn't Vrabel think of this?

Joker · 05-07-2014, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

A player receiving in the Slot is not necessarily a WR. Its pure BS, he was a All Pro TE, Pro Bowl TE and wants changed for more money. You can argue he deserves more than the TE tag but thats football

That's the business of Football, but he's a TE plain and simple. A very good TE but I really don't think it matters.

05-07-2014, 01:13 PM	#21
Threaded by AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by TheOak Ohhh the irony.. Employer and employee want to get to work. Big Union battles Big Corporation on their behalf to decide how the job description should read. Interesting that Jimmy, the Saints, and Sexton are somewhat just an audience as DeMaurice Smith tries to get reelected. Exactly. This is all on the NFLPA and the league. Those of you calling for Graham's head are way off base. Graham is going to get basically the same compensation regardless of the outcome because he won't be playing under a franchise tag. I'll guarantee you he simply wants to play, but this whole thing was inevitable, much as was Brees' situation where the NFLPA tested the multiple tag under different franchises. The outcome of the arbitration will give either Graham's agent or Loomis a extra it of leverage, but a deal was going to be made regardless. Do not take any of this personally. It is not that big of a deal. SaintsBro likes this.
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05-07-2014, 01:21 PM	#22
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says No one player is more important than the team. Not Drew Brees, not Jimmy Graham. Still, I'd stand firm on 2 first rounders for Jimmy and not one penny less. As for Jimmy, he can play for the tag and play for it again next year too I believe or he can sit until the Saints trade him. Personally, I see this huge dude that can't block, can't stand up to Safties or CB's and gets taken out of important game way too easily. It's one thing to dominate the lesser teams, but if you're all that, you should dominate the good teams too. Sorry, but to me Jimmy isn't worth WR money and is barely worth the top TE money until I see him dominate anyone he plays and he should because of his measurables. If we didn't have to tag him, I'd offer him 5-6 mil a year till he proved himself. Joker likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly. This is all on the NFLPA and the league. Those of you calling for Graham's head are way off base. Graham is going to get basically the same compensation regardless of the outcome because he won't be playing under a franchise tag. I'll guarantee you he simply wants to play, but this whole thing was inevitable, much as was Brees' situation where the NFLPA tested the multiple tag under different franchises. The outcome of the arbitration will give either Graham's agent or Loomis a extra it of leverage, but a deal was going to be made regardless. Do not take any of this personally. It is not that big of a deal. The PA is probably propping Jimmy up so they can get the designations changed. They see him as the ideal poster boy for hybrid positions. Also, let's not forget the pages and pages of threads condemning Brees when he went thru his negotiations

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Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says Originally Posted by lee909 A player receiving in the Slot is not necessarily a WR. Its pure BS, he was a All Pro TE, Pro Bowl TE and wants changed for more money. You can argue he deserves more than the TE tag but thats football That's the business of Football, but he's a TE plain and simple. A very good TE but I really don't think it matters.

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