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There's quality and then there's quality. If we can pick up an offensive lineman who is pretty much ready to start right away, that's no waste of a second round choice for us. We have a need and that guy would pretty much be the BPA for us.

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I know that center in the second round is huge but we don't have a third.

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Are you talking quality like second round pick Charles Brown or quality like 4th round pick pro bowler Jahri Evans?

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plain A - send a second this year and next year second to houston and get pick 33! hold an auction or just take the player you want. me i would take carr and sit and wait to here the offers.

or trade up else where and chase one of these guys

Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Nebraska (6-3, 218) over McGill
If the saints decide to play true man on man coverage then fight fire with fire. Just do not put him on a WR that is quicker. keep on the big slow lumbering WR and he is fine. I like the upside and he has great hands. can he out muscle for the ball is an area of concern.

Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech (6-3, 252)
Added depth at pass rusher works too. but issue number one can he drop into coverage?


Allen Robinson, Penn State (6-3, 220)
let them come up with a CB to cover him. I am not usually a big Penn St. fan but after all they went through as a team and to stick together and have a solid season says a lot about the player. they all could have gone else where but stayed. *2 in my book

Plan B stand pat for the most part

Bishop Sankey, Washington (5-10, 209)
If he falls into your lap and do not take him you are not using BPA approach

there will be plenty of talen on the board with upside label to pick from,

Now DEFENSIVE TACKLE
1. Louis Nix, Notre Dame (6-2, 331)
2. Timmy Jernigan, Florida State (6-2, 299)
3. Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-6, 304)
4. Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota (6-6, 310)
5. Da'Quan Jones, Penn State (6-4, 322)

that is a very nice list. one is bound to fall. even Jones is a solid addition. Saints need depth big time at NT.

Or just get it over with and reach for the player you want round 2 has some good talent

next on my wish list from round 3 are oppsss were

Charles Sims
C.J. Fiedorowicz
Christian Jones

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Yeah I am thinking the same way...

Who ever the BPA is on their board and I like Tuitt where we may not have to go up to high to get.

I also like WR Lee out of USC. Get another WR... why not.

I am usually all for trading back and getting more picks but the quality that is still there might as well go get them.

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Trade 2nd rounder back for more picks in Rounds 3 and/or 4. Centers Travis Swanson or Marcus Martin should be available early 3rd round through the end of the 4th...pick up one of them then as Weston Richburg will probably be gone by the 3rd round.

If Jordan Matthews is sitting there with our 2nd round pick, DO NOT pass on that...let Meachem, Toon, and Morgan fight over that last WR spot.

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You're assuming if we take a OL in the second he'll be another Charles Brown and will be able to land another Jahri Evans in the 4th. Why did we even take Brandin Cooks at all when we could have landed another Colston in the 7th? Why ever to take a WR in the first 6 rounds then? Why even draft at all since we've had so much success with UDFA's?

I'm sorry but your thought process is pretty damn stupid.

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My thoughts exactly!

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REDSKINS: LISTENING TO OFFERS FOR PICK 34

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Hmmm... Cowboys are rumored to be trying to move for Ealy. Jump 'em!

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How many quality OL are taken every year in the later rounds of the draft? It's much easier to pick up a good OL late than it is a skill player. That's not a thought process, that's a fact of the draft. How many guards and centers are taken in the first 2 rounds on average each draft? 99% of NFL GM's can't be wrong. Loomis/Payton say BPA, so how do you pass on an impact skill player for a need at OL that you can easily fill two rounds later? Do you even have a thought process?

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One of the most prolific QB/WR tandems

BRADY/WELKER

Brady 6th round
Welker - not even drafted.

Its a freakin' crap shoot. get over yourselves...

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Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin were both drafted early.

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Kyle Van Noy, Kyle Van Noy, Kyle Van Noy!!!!!

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I agree a ton with this. I wanted Verrett because he's a bad, bad man, but other than him, I don't see any great need for a corner. White was fantastic last year, P-Rob has shown signs of being a very good no. 2 and Champ is a future HOFer. And we have the best 3-safety group in the league to cover any weakness at corner.

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Plenty. Many fall through the cracks.

I don't disagree.

That is actually a thought process.

Not many. But the ones that are, have a high impact/success rate. So if there is a guy there that we like and take, his chances of making an impact is pretty high. With that said, I've always been a proponent of taking lineman later as opposed to being early.

You know what BPA means? Best player available. Not best skill position player available. How do you know that player won't be an offensive lineman? Just because we've hit on plenty of OL in the mid rounds, doesn't mean it will always be the case. BPA... lineman are included in that "thought process".

Sure do. My "thought process" is that you made a stupid generalization and assumption that every 2nd round OL we take will end up being Charles Brown and every later round OL we take will be an All Pro. My other "thought process" is that you have no clue what the hell BPA means.

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High post count obviously doesn't = high IQ.

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I'm hearing D'Anthony Thomas. No wait, that's just me imagining the most awesome offense ever. :)

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My list for tonights wants
We would get one of these as i have no RBs or QBs as i feel that we do not need a QB at all and can pick up a RB later on as they will be RB3/4 anyway.
I would be as much inclined to get a OG now and bring in Goodwin for a year to compete with Lelito at C than reach too highly for a Centre.It would make sense with a lack of third round pick too. Not quite as keen on Colvin or Thomas now with injury risks unless we bring in Goodwin or trade out of round 2 to get a round 3 and 4/5


WR
Marqise Lee
Dont Morcrief
Cody Latimer
Davante Adams
Allen Robinson
Jarvis Landry
Jordan Matthews

TE
Troy Niklas
Jace Amaro

OG
Xavier Su'a Filo
Gabe Jackson
David Yankey

OT
Joel Bitonio
Cyrus Kouandjio
Antonio Richardson
Morgan Moses

C
Marcus Martin
Weston Richburg
Travis Swanson

DE
Stephen Tuitt
Demarcus Lawrence
Kony Ealy
Scott Crichton

DT/NT
Ra'Shede Hageman
Louis Nix
Timmy Jernigan


OLB/ILB
Jeremiah Attaochu
Kyle Van Noy
Christian Jones
Chris Borland


CB
Keith McGill
Stanley Jean-Baptise
Pierre Desir

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You don't really want much do you Lee? :p

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I could go with this list too.

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I'll make do with half of them i guess,dont want to be greedy

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I really want a piece of donk, sweet potato pie and a glass of sweet tea

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If we get Desir, he's gonna need to sit and learn. Most of his highlights were against one team.

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There really isn't a correlation between the two. At least you understand that. You're not that stupid after all.

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Top centers
1. 2. 3.Marcus Martin, USC
4.
I think if we wait for fourth that last one could be a steal.

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Dude,you are clearly out-matched in this argument.Just stop already.Theres no shame in knowing when to shut the f**k up.

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We may have a chance to move out of the second round if there is a WR there as Josh Gordon looks likely to face a one year suspension for yet another drug bust.

The boy has all the talent but is a moron

Stay of the dope boys,you only have to be clean 10 years and then get as high as you want for the next few decades

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No thanks, especially since I'm 100 percent correct.

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My top cornerbacks that are among the higher ranked left
1. 2.After further review and going to Harris Highlights instead I seen some different things
3.For physicalness, I don't know the speed for him
4.
The other two, McGill and Gaines, I felt didnt impress me.

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Isn't Baptiste french for bust? Okay plays against bad teams with crappy to so-so quarterbacks. This guy is waaaaay overrated. We've already given up our third rounder (no gripes there), let's not give our second away too.

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Marcus Martin - OL - USC

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DEs
1.Ealy
2.Martin(Kareem)
3.Crichton

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Man,I would love to trade up into the second and grab Martin and Attaochu.

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Not sure if we have enough, but Cooks, Martin and Attaochu is enough for me to call this draft a success.

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What would it take to get back into late 2 early three
Next years two and this years 4 and one 5 maybe

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Same here. Just wishful thinking.

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ESPN draft chat

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ealy still out there and several good cb's left it would be tough to pick a center this early if choices are still the same