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lee909 05-09-2014 09:54 PM

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NO NO NO

lee909 05-09-2014 09:56 PM

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Good value for the colts there

The Dude 05-09-2014 10:10 PM

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The more I hear our radio crew talk about this guy the more I wonder if this guy was the right pick. To hear Bobby and Deke and all tell it this guy can't tackle, is not physical, lacks strength and cannot catch lol. They say he's more of a project. I would think this type of player would be a later round type of guy. Hope I'm wrong.

lsusaint912 05-09-2014 10:18 PM

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I heard that 2 but i seen him play a little then watched his highlights.. I think in the first season or the year after hes a beast

Ashley 05-09-2014 10:24 PM

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I'm thrilled with it.

HuskerSaint 05-09-2014 10:24 PM

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I am biased but hell ya GO BIG RED and WHO DAT!!!

NoZone504 05-09-2014 10:27 PM

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And from the sound of it..He's eager to learn. This is where Champ Bailey will make his money. See y'all tomorrow!! Who Dat

QBREES9 05-09-2014 10:40 PM

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I love this pick.

burningmetal 05-09-2014 11:27 PM

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I'm neither excited nor disappointed by this pick. I really don't know what to think about it. He has great size and hops which would seem ideal. On the other hand he's pretty slow. In the old days when you were allowed to be more physical, I think he'd be prototypical, and would have been a first round pick. Not sure how he's gonna do with that lack of speed today. He's going to need to develop some instincts that I'm currently hearing is lacking in his game. If he can do that, then I'll be stoked.

amazin15 05-09-2014 11:28 PM

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He was a receiver before he switched to corner, hands is not an issue with him. He is going to learn for a year under Champ and turn into a steal at #58.

The Dude 05-09-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by amazin15 (Post 592236)
He was a receiver before he switched to corner, hands is not an issue with him. He is going to learn for a year under Champ and turn into a steal at #58.

The way I hear it is that he was switched from WR to CB because he had an issue with his hands.

SaintLeonard 05-09-2014 11:42 PM

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Good Lawd almighty... The big hits in that video have me drooling.

Mr.Riaton 05-09-2014 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 592235)
I'm neither excited nor disappointed by this pick. I really don't know what to think about it. He has great size and hops which would seem ideal. On the other hand he's pretty slow. In the old days when you were allowed to be more physical, I think he'd be prototypical, and would have been a first round pick. Not sure how he's gonna do with that lack of speed today. He's going to need to develop some instincts that I'm currently hearing is lacking in his game. If he can do that, then I'll be stoked.

He ran a 4.6-40. Fastest time in the combine is a 4.3. Thats three-tenths of a second...seems pretty damn fast to me.

nola_swammi 05-10-2014 01:02 AM

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I did a little homework on the guy and he did improve his 40. I still don't like the pick but feel a little better. I just don't want to go back to the days of having Toi Cook (Stanley)burned by Michael Haynes (Julio)

After a 4.61 40-yard dash at the NFL Combine, CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste improved that number to 4.48 and 4.46 at Thursday's pro day, standing on his impressive Combine numbers in the vertical (41.5-inches) and broad jump (10-foot-7).

2014 Pro Days: Nebraska's Taylor Martinez works out at QB, WR, DB - CBSSports.com

alleycat_126 05-10-2014 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 592057)
I hate I hate I hate , prefer jaylen Watkins or trade down and get Keith McGill if you trying to match up to towers in tampa

Baptiste graded out better than McGill, McGill has worse hips and change of direction than any of the corners who are still on the board, and his interceptions are low as well. Pierre Desir is the only corner I had in the same breath as Baptiste....... He's got everything we need and can be coached for what he lacks. Hell, his name even sounds like it's French creole...... It was meant for us to get him.

alleycat_126 05-10-2014 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 592073)
We don't need to throw him out there on day one. Let him learn under Ryan and he'll be a monster.

He's gonna spot play at first probably..... Get his feet wet, and he will still have Champ, Keenan and Rob Ryan as tutors.... It's just an awesome pick to me.....

alleycat_126 05-10-2014 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 592134)
Love his hands and ball skills. Looks like he needs to be more physical and aggressive. If we can develop a good pass rush, adding these DBS with good hands like we have could be brilliant. The negative trend here is Vaccarro, Baptiste(is that right?) and Byrd all 4.6. 40 yd dash times. We could be looking at the slowest secondary in the NFL.

A statement then a question. You are about to get ready to add a healthy Victor Butler and Rufus Johnson to an already potent Dline.... and maybe a LB like Christian Jones....

If you increase the turnovers you created from last season and bolster this #4 defense does it really matter what there 40 times are?

nola_swammi 05-10-2014 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 592259)

If you increase the turnovers you created from last season and bolster this #4 defense does it really matter what there 40 times are?

Yes! That a big if! A guy that run a 4.3 against a guy that run a 4.6 will have a 3 yard separation if the corner don't get a hand on them. Sherman is good for jamming and holding. You can't use that 4.3 speed if you have to carry 200lbs but with our luck the flag will be thrown a lot to set an example(eyebrow raised @ roger Goodell )

B_Dub_Saint 05-10-2014 01:47 AM

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Don't hate to soon, lets see what this guy can do for us before throwing stones. He could start as a nickel guy and progress to our #2 eventually. Don't be hatin :0 B.Rad from da Boo

darksoul35 05-10-2014 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 592260)
Yes! That a big if! A guy that run a 4.3 against a guy that run a 4.6 will have a 3 yard separation if the corner don't get a hand on them. Sherman is good for jamming and holding. You can't use that 4.3 speed if you have to carry 200lbs but with our luck the flag will be thrown a lot to set an example(eyebrow raised @ roger Goodell )

Im still waiting for someone to at least shank that man. At first I wanted Ole Rodge dead. Now Ill be happy if someone would at least cut him.

robert.f 05-10-2014 02:22 AM

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This is the guy I had on my board. Huge upside. He is bigger than Sherman at (6' 3" 218lb). SJB and Sherman are the same height but Sherman is lighter. He has only been a CB for 2 years but brings experience as a WR (just like Sherman). At his Pro-day he ran a 4.46 not bad for a big guy Sherman ran in the mid 4.5s. SBJ has a verticals of 41.5" one of the top of DBs. He also ranked tops in many other tests at combine. Keep in mind Sherman went in the 5th round so many more people though he wasn't going to work out to be passed on that many times. Keep in mind Panthers just signed a 6' 4" 240lb wr, Tampa has 3 receivers that are 6' 5" 260 range, Atl has Julio and Roddy... On top of all of this he will be learning under Rob Ryan and Champ Bailey. Even Mayock thinks he could be a top cb under Ryan. Give the kid a chance. He is physical, big, pretty fast, and has the best teachers a guy in his position could ask for not to mention 2 of the best safeties to help him out in a jam. We also added a wr who has Reggie Bush speed and caught for over 1700 yards last year. We are on our way to being the top offense again this time with the top defense in the league! Can I get a WHO DAT!!!


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alleycat_126 05-10-2014 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lsusaint912 (Post 592187)
Lets get de'anthony thomas to replace sproles.. I love our picks but we really need a speed back and hes perfect for us..

This is one of the main reasons you picked up Brandon Cooks. Although Thomas may still be in play I would love to see them take a chance on Andre Williams out of Boston College if he is still there in the late rounds.....

TheOak 05-10-2014 06:51 AM

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What is Nebraska's track record for CBs coming out of their system and transitioning into the NFL?

alleycat_126 05-10-2014 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 592260)
Yes! That a big if! A guy that run a 4.3 against a guy that run a 4.6 will have a 3 yard separation if the corner don't get a hand on them. Sherman is good for jamming and holding. You can't use that 4.3 speed if you have to carry 200lbs but with our luck the flag will be thrown a lot to set an example(eyebrow raised @ roger Goodell )

What's funny is this is not as big an if as you think..... What separated you from the top three defenses in the league last season is :

A. There players in most instances especially their Linebackers( Luke Kuekly..... Patrick Willis..... Navarro Bowman...... Earl Thomas...... Richard Sherman......Cam Chancellor etc...

B. The turnovers that they create by their pressure.

You hired your ball hawk, who has a career history of almost doubling the turnover production of your former safety Malcolm Jenkins.... You created one of the best safety groups in the league Byrd, Vaccaro, Bush, and Marcus Ball if he pans out.... Your returning a DLine with plenty of qb pressures, at least 28 sacks from 3 guys, not to mention adding Victor Butler to the mix....

Also Rob Ryan had many of the same issues you see in this kid with Nnamdi.... He's coming into a great support system with Ryan as his coordinator and Bailey, and Lewis to teach him the ropes....

hagan714 05-10-2014 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 592277)
What's funny is this is not as big an if as you think..... What separated you from the top three defenses in the league last season is :

A. There players in most instances especially their Linebackers( Luke Kuekly..... Patrick Willis..... Navarro Bowman...... Earl Thomas...... Richard Sherman......Cam Chancellor etc...

agreed. the thing is to avoids that miss match all cost. It is the stop and go accelerate and the quick cuts that kill taller defenders.

that what makes cook so deadly. question will be what happens when a LB or CB times a fit perfectly? will he get up.

But of all the CB on the board you got one of the biggest upside gambles on the board. for now put him on big lumbering WR and TE. in a year or two who knows

dizzle88 05-10-2014 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 592279)
agreed. the thing is to avoids that miss match all cost. It is the stop and go accelerate and the quick cuts that kill taller defenders.

that what makes cook so deadly. question will be what happens when a LB or CB times a fit perfectly? will he get up.

But of all the CB on the board you got one of the biggest upside gambles on the board. for now put him on big lumbering WR and TE. in a year or two who knows

Well he's bigger and 4 inches taller than sproles, darren never had a problem of getting up after getting hit by an LB or CB, don't think that needs to be worried about

voodooido 05-10-2014 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 592116)
Nice pick. I guess center next. I assume we move up into the third.

Not many left now. You have FSU Stork that will go in mid 4th or Utah State Larsen which will probably will go mid 5th.

WhoDatFan26 05-10-2014 08:54 AM

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That my friend would be incorrect. He was moved because during his redshirt freshman year they had several injuries in the secondary and Bo Pelini suggested to him that he transition to CB much like Prince Amukamora had done. The feeling was he can try to go to the NFL as an average WR or an exceptional CB.

So Your Team Drafted Stanley Jean-Baptiste... - Corn Nation

Danno 05-10-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 592304)
That my friend would be incorrect. He was moved because during his redshirt freshman year they had several injuries in the secondary and Bo Pelini suggested to him that he transition to CB much like Prince Amukamora had done. The feeling was he can try to go to the NFL as an average WR or an exceptional CB.

So Your Team Drafted Stanley Jean-Baptiste... - Corn Nation

Good read on the kid. I like it a lot.
Also relieved he redeemed his 40 time at his pro-day. I think he ran in the high 4.4ish range.

I think had he run under 4.5 at the combine, he may have been picked a little earlier.

Crusader 05-10-2014 10:46 AM

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The first thing you should know about Stanley Jean-Baptiste is how to properly pronounce his name. "Stanley" isn't difficult, obviously, but that last name that gets people because of the French genealogy. Phonetically, the last name is "Gene BAP-teest", said with a slight French flair, the flair one gets from, say, picking off a pass as Jean-Baptiste did in 2011 against the Ohio State Buckeyes in one of his first games as a cornerback .
An important part, I have already heard his name pronounced in 3 different way.

SmashMouth 05-10-2014 10:56 AM

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Another Haitian Sensation ... can't go wrong here.

billyt81 05-10-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lsusaint912 (Post 592187)
Lets get de'anthony thomas to replace sproles.. I love our picks but we really need a speed back and hes perfect for us..

If we wanted a back like Sproles we'd have kept Sproles. A back like De'Anthony Thomas at 175 lbs makes ur offense predictable. When they're in ur either passing or running off tackle. These guys aren't gonna produce between the tackles. I think were just going in a different direction and ull see Pierre Thomas on passing downs and he's a very capable receiver and pass blocker.

lsusaint912 05-10-2014 04:50 PM

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Just gonna feel kinda weird... Bush and sproles all those years gonna be nice to see this new adjustment

Rugby Saint II 05-11-2014 12:57 PM

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The more I read about this man the more I like him. He is going to be a great player for us. RR is going to get the most out of him I do believe. Perfect for matching up on the big WR's in our division. :smile:


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