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Fourth in defense even with all of our injuries is what I'm sayin'! We were fine especially with our FA pickups. We could be so much better than last year with a little help for the offensive side. My draft order was:
WR
OL
Trade away
OL
WR
OL
K

But hell, we needed somebody in this thread to throw a fit. Everyone else was being way too calm. It wouldn't have been Black and Gold. com without that.

Oh yeah, and now I have to throw out some stats and tell all of you how uninformed you all are or something insulting just to round it out.

Ummm, don't really have any stats and my weekend was way too good overall to pick any fights so I guess I'll call it good, duct tape the teeth marks on my couch and say, "Who dat?"

Now when do the training camp debates start?

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I'm not a fan of this draft. There is not one pick that really gets me excited. I don't see how we became any more physical team in any way.I'm kinda Tired of the finesse type team. I rather we Have a bunch of mean and nasty slobber knockers out there.

And another thing which isn't draft related but also think is important going forward. Sean and company have to do something with the playbook it really needs a few new wrinkles. The Screen, Run, Go Deep or The Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy play calling is getting pretty predictable.

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GRADES
1st, Cooks A+
2nd, -Baptiste B-
4th, Fortt C
5th: Sunseri D and Powell C
6th: Rook, D
Overall: C-
UDFA: all 12 slots for OL

20/20 HINDSIGHT: HOW THE SAINTS SHOULD’VE DRAFTED

1st round, 20th pick: Cooks, WR (traded up from 27th for a 3rd round, 27th pick)

2nd round, 26th pick: Nix, NT taken 3rd round, 19th pick

3) had to trade up 7 picks in 1st to get Cooks

4th round, 26th pick: Murray, QB taken 5th round, 23rd pick (obviously, could’ve traded down almost a full round).

Given extra pick in a trade down, add Andrew Jackson (LB Western Kentucky taken 6th round, 27th pick

5th round, 27th pick : Jared Abbrederis, WR taken 5th round, 36th pick

5th round, 29th pick: Jordan Tripp LB Montana taken 5th round, 31st pick

6th round, 26th pick: Jeff Janis WR Saginaw Valley State taken 7th round, 21st pick (obviously, could’ve traded down almost a full round.

Picking up a 7th with a trade down: Trevor Reilly, LB Utah

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I was a bit shocked at the picks in rounds 4-6 but people with a better pedigree than me are paid to make the picks and if they dont get it right they will pay with there jobs long term.

Last year FA and draft was filling a few holes and a couple of prospect picks in Stills and Armstead and then improve the defense. This year another offense tool in round 1 (a much needed one too) then it looks like trying to improve special teams with players thst hopefully can help with the LB core.

Im surprised more wase done in the o-line but they will have had a plan in mind if the players weren't there.

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If you've noticed I haven't bought new jerseys yet lol. I am just not prepared to yell at paint in tubes, is rather wait until the canvas has been painted. There are articles literally saying out roster and starting lineup are set! Well sh1t Jerry, all we need are 53 at camp then.

Sean does a lot with UDFA's, Loomis states that before the draft.

Is it worth a 7 day depression to get so upset about something entirely out of your control? Seriously, members are attacking other members telling them what they "can't come here and say"...

Lighten up Francis! ~ SGT. Hulka

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really since when? don't you just love these statements

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There was a bleacherreport article I saw yesterday.... I know BR. I'll see if I can find it.

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Here are the draft grades from a select few.

:)

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It happens with every team's fan... I guess. :D

Well welcome Seferian-Jenkins...., I guess - Team Discussions - Unofficial Message Board of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...022502802.html


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Brandin Cooks - A
- If he was 6'2 or 6'3, he would have been the first receiver drafted. He's a WR that Payton and Brees can put the ball in his hands on quick screens and let him make a play like Sproles. Plus he can blow he top off a defense, giving Colston and Graham more room to work over the middle. Great pick

Stanley Jean-Baptiste - B+
- great height and ability but still a little raw. Once he's able to digest the playbook and get some coaching on technique, the sky is the limit. He and Lewis will make a great pair of starting CB's for years to come

Khairi Fortt - B
- good prospect for the 4th round. Will need a little work, needs some coaching and to live up to his potential, but could be a solid contributor if the light turns on. Should make an impact on special teams.

Vinnie Sunseri - C
-with Byrd, Vaccaro and Bush, and other needs on the table, it was a surprising pick, especially with a late ACL tear this past season. He's smart, maybe one of the smartest football players on the defense, but lacks the athletic ability. Should be a great special teams player if he can stay healthy but how much "defensive" playing time will he see?

Ronald Powell - B
-High risk, high reward pick. Had the same ACL damaged twice, so major injury concerns there. But, when healthy, he played the DE/OLB hybrid at Florida, and could be that edge guy we were looking for. Here's to hoping he's not Cie Grant 2.0

Tavon Rooks - C
-definite developmental prospect and not guaranteed to make the roster (but who is outside of Cooks and Baptiste?). Could stand to add more weight and strength, but is exclusively a RT, so Strief has a backup with experience on that side of the line.

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B+. Getting Cooks, Jean-Baptiste and Powell gives us 3 immediate impact players. Fortt and Sunseri will both help our depth and special teams. Rooks may turn out to be a player if given the time to properly develop. The only drawback was the inability to draft a C/G player. Powell and Jean-Baptiste will be the keys, they both develop, our defense will become Elite.

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It seems most people are surprised we didnt draft by need...

Since when do the Saints run a draft by need?

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Last year seemed pretty close.

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I think most wanted front 7, since we were switching to the 3-4.

But yeah, the picks were close to needs, S/DE/LT/WR/LB/DT

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Vaccaro in the 1st made peoples azzes pucker.
Stills and Johnson were PS material

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I puckered when Vacarro was chosen as I was thinking NT, but relaxed nicely when we traded up and grabbed Jenkins in the third.

I'm not so happy this year as I'm hearing Payton talking about a "reach" to draft a center in the second round, so instead we really "reach" and grab a "prototypical" CB instead. I guess Payton and Loomis are just playing it safety.... I mean safely this year?

You know that prototypes rarely make it to market right?

I'm think our OL is going to make or break the team this year, so yeah I wanted to see some more OL type beef showing up at our training camp.

My quote key is now worn out....

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I'll admit that I was stoked about Vacarro. Now I just want to sell a watch to Cooks.

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Someone must be reading my posts... I grade the INCOMPLETE.

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I still wish would have traded down but i am warming up to Kenny.

neither PS but neither were on my wish list either. but i ate my crow on the Jenkins pick and stills was let see what happens