Can we discuss the Playbook now that the Draft is done and over?

exile · 05-12-2014, 08:50 AM

Has it moved to the iPad yet? Or is it still a book with horse hair binding?

TheOak · 05-12-2014, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by exile

Has it moved to the iPad yet? Or is it still a book with horse hair binding?

On raptor skin written with a Dodo quill.

TheOak · 05-12-2014, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Lots of great plays in there, it's just time for Sean to buy a randomizer.

Random doesn't help when personnel give it away.

You can rewrite the playbook just by changing the personnel packages associated with it.

With your blocking TE in, PT in the back field, and Henderson in...

What are the odds a screen is coming?

Euphoria · 05-12-2014, 09:49 AM

I think it is more to do with personnel.

We need to upgrade our WR's to start. If Jimmy is the only one open then I'd throw to him to.

If Ingram starts to earn his 1st round ranking and becomes what he should become then teams would have to respect our run game.

Its not the play book so much as it is execution.

Rugby Saint II · 05-12-2014, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I think it is more to do with personnel.

We need to upgrade our WR's to start. If Jimmy is the only one open then I'd throw to him to.

If Ingram starts to earn his 1st round ranking and becomes what he should become then teams would have to respect our run game.

Its not the play book so much as it is execution.

I'm thinking Robinson is the one who is going to stand out this year.

TheOak · 05-13-2014, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I think it is more to do with personnel.

We need to upgrade our WR's to start. If Jimmy is the only one open then I'd throw to him to.

If Ingram starts to earn his 1st round ranking and becomes what he should become then teams would have to respect our run game.

Its not the play book so much as it is execution.

That supports the "there is a playbook and the players figure it out" theory.

I see it differently. Our Playbook is changed everytime there is a major weapon change. The playbook was overhauled from 2009 (Which won a SB) to work in favor of Jimmy Graham (Shockey never received that many targets), it is written with Drew in mind, it was changed to maximize Sproles's roll. Sproles is gone, new WR weapon added, Drews range, no longer an elite O-line... all need to be addressed in the play book.

The way you manage talent is by making the puzzle play to their strengths, not trying to force a piece into a different shaped hole. (see 2012 defense)

Euphoria · 05-13-2014, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

That supports the "there is a playbook and the players figure it out" theory.

I see it differently. Our Playbook is changed everytime there is a major weapon change. The playbook was overhauled from 2009 (Which won a SB) to work in favor of Jimmy Graham (Shockey never received that many targets), it is written with Drew in mind, it was changed to maximize Sproles's roll. Sproles is gone, new WR weapon added, Drews range, no longer an elite O-line... all need to be addressed in the play book.

The way you manage talent is by making the puzzle play to their strengths, not trying to force a piece into a different shaped hole. (see 2012 defense)

Perhaps not as many targets but this always has been a very heavy feature TE offense. Also you keep doing something until the other team comes up with a way to stop it. SB also feature a very successful run offense as well. When that goes away we have to open up and throw more hence more passes to TE's.

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05-12-2014, 09:29 AM	#12
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Can we discuss the Playbook now that the Draft is done and over? Originally Posted by exile Has it moved to the iPad yet? Or is it still a book with horse hair binding? On raptor skin written with a Dodo quill. exile likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Can we discuss the Playbook now that the Draft is done and over? Originally Posted by Seer1 Lots of great plays in there, it's just time for Sean to buy a randomizer. Random doesn't help when personnel give it away. You can rewrite the playbook just by changing the personnel packages associated with it. With your blocking TE in, PT in the back field, and Henderson in... What are the odds a screen is coming?

05-12-2014, 09:49 AM	#14
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Can we discuss the Playbook now that the Draft is done and over? I think it is more to do with personnel. We need to upgrade our WR's to start. If Jimmy is the only one open then I'd throw to him to. If Ingram starts to earn his 1st round ranking and becomes what he should become then teams would have to respect our run game. Its not the play book so much as it is execution.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,712	Re: Can we discuss the Playbook now that the Draft is done and over? Originally Posted by Euphoria I think it is more to do with personnel. We need to upgrade our WR's to start. If Jimmy is the only one open then I'd throw to him to. If Ingram starts to earn his 1st round ranking and becomes what he should become then teams would have to respect our run game. Its not the play book so much as it is execution. I'm thinking Robinson is the one who is going to stand out this year. TheOak likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Can we discuss the Playbook now that the Draft is done and over? Originally Posted by Euphoria I think it is more to do with personnel. We need to upgrade our WR's to start. If Jimmy is the only one open then I'd throw to him to. If Ingram starts to earn his 1st round ranking and becomes what he should become then teams would have to respect our run game. Its not the play book so much as it is execution. That supports the "there is a playbook and the players figure it out" theory. I see it differently. Our Playbook is changed everytime there is a major weapon change. The playbook was overhauled from 2009 (Which won a SB) to work in favor of Jimmy Graham (Shockey never received that many targets), it is written with Drew in mind, it was changed to maximize Sproles's roll. Sproles is gone, new WR weapon added, Drews range, no longer an elite O-line... all need to be addressed in the play book. The way you manage talent is by making the puzzle play to their strengths, not trying to force a piece into a different shaped hole. (see 2012 defense)
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05-13-2014, 09:31 AM	#17
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Can we discuss the Playbook now that the Draft is done and over? Originally Posted by TheOak That supports the "there is a playbook and the players figure it out" theory. I see it differently. Our Playbook is changed everytime there is a major weapon change. The playbook was overhauled from 2009 (Which won a SB) to work in favor of Jimmy Graham (Shockey never received that many targets), it is written with Drew in mind, it was changed to maximize Sproles's roll. Sproles is gone, new WR weapon added, Drews range, no longer an elite O-line... all need to be addressed in the play book. The way you manage talent is by making the puzzle play to their strengths, not trying to force a piece into a different shaped hole. (see 2012 defense) Perhaps not as many targets but this always has been a very heavy feature TE offense. Also you keep doing something until the other team comes up with a way to stop it. SB also feature a very successful run offense as well. When that goes away we have to open up and throw more hence more passes to TE's.

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