Lets see About AB

DieV3rse · 11-25-2004, 12:19 PM

As I came upon some information as browsing site some news came upon me to have proven everyone who laughed at me about Ab not being in the top 10. I see that Ab as sportsline has thought so to proven by his stats is raked oh lets see TEN as proven.

Laugh at that :D

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/player...gularseason/QB

saintswhodi · 11-25-2004, 12:39 PM

Isn\'t he also in the top 10 in boneheadded plays? And what\'s his record as compared to those who are in the top 10? Jake Delhomme is at 15 and has more tds with a WORSE team than the Saints(Just pulled him out cause of Carolina\'s record guys. Not to start a Jake verses AB debate.)

whodatsaintsfan26 · 11-25-2004, 02:28 PM

See if you can find AB\'s stats in the first quarter. He puts up a lot of garbage stats after the game is already over. When you down 20 all the time you cant run. Look at his 400 yard game against Denver a couple years ago. The stats look great, but look at the results of the games. You can make stats look anyway you want them to look, all that matters are the W\'s and L\'s. That stat doesnt lie, and AB is a 500 qb. That is not a top 10 qb.

JOESAM2002 · 11-25-2004, 02:47 PM

It\'s called padding stats.

\"Statistics are for losers.\"

Vince Lombardi

whodatsaintsfan26 · 11-25-2004, 03:05 PM

in the padding stats category AB is absolutely a top 10 QB in this league. When the game is on the line bottom 10 QB.

mutineer10 · 11-26-2004, 02:04 AM

Since we\'re discussing the number 10, here\'s an interesting little tidbit some of you might find interesting...

I was browsing the \"Stats 2004\" link (to your left on this page), and I noticed that this year\'s Saints have scored a total of 10 points in the first quarter, all 10 against the lowly 49er\'s (in a game we barely won). Maybe \"statistics are for losers,\" but I can\'t help but feel that stat may help explain why WE are such losers.

10 points in the first quarter through Week 10 of the season. Does that sound like the work of a top 10 quarterback to you guys?

:P

LordOfEntropy · 11-26-2004, 08:36 AM

Nope.

Danno · 11-26-2004, 09:10 AM

We have a defense on pace to finish within 16 yards of the worst defense in the ENTIRE HISTORY of the NFL and people still want to point to Brooks.

BrooksMustGo · 11-26-2004, 09:49 AM

It\'s called padding stats.

Too right Joe.

But I saw this breakdown of his passing and thought it might be fun to dispel an Aaron Brook myth.

Myth--It isn\'t Brooks fault, its all the drops.
In the 2004 season, Brooks has made 368 attempts with 156 incompletions. There have been 17 drops making about 11% of all incompletions being drops. Now 11% of all incompletions sounds like a lot, like maybe enough to determine whether we win or lose a game. But then if you consider that 63 passes have just been poor throws, then you come up with about 40% of all incompletions.

To put it in perspective. 4.6% of all passes are dropped.
17.1% of all passes are just bad throws.

http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...ts.asp?id=4781

Danno · 11-26-2004, 09:55 AM

It\'s called padding stats.

It could just as easily be said that Joe Horn is a big beneficiary of that stat padding also. Funny, no one ever brings that up.

[Edited on 26/11/2004 by Danno]

11-25-2004, 12:19 PM	#1
DieV3rse Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 46	Lets see About AB As I came upon some information as browsing site some news came upon me to have proven everyone who laughed at me about Ab not being in the top 10. I see that Ab as sportsline has thought so to proven by his stats is raked oh lets see TEN as proven. Laugh at that :D http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/player...gularseason/QB
DieV3rse Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 46

11-25-2004, 12:39 PM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Lets see About AB Isn\'t he also in the top 10 in boneheadded plays? And what\'s his record as compared to those who are in the top 10? Jake Delhomme is at 15 and has more tds with a WORSE team than the Saints(Just pulled him out cause of Carolina\'s record guys. Not to start a Jake verses AB debate.)

11-25-2004, 02:28 PM	#3
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Lets see About AB See if you can find AB\'s stats in the first quarter. He puts up a lot of garbage stats after the game is already over. When you down 20 all the time you cant run. Look at his 400 yard game against Denver a couple years ago. The stats look great, but look at the results of the games. You can make stats look anyway you want them to look, all that matters are the W\'s and L\'s. That stat doesnt lie, and AB is a 500 qb. That is not a top 10 qb.

11-25-2004, 02:47 PM	#4
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Lets see About AB It\'s called padding stats. \"Statistics are for losers.\" Vince Lombardi

11-25-2004, 03:05 PM	#5
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Lets see About AB in the padding stats category AB is absolutely a top 10 QB in this league. When the game is on the line bottom 10 QB.

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11-26-2004, 02:04 AM	#6
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Lets see About AB Since we\'re discussing the number 10, here\'s an interesting little tidbit some of you might find interesting... I was browsing the \"Stats 2004\" link (to your left on this page), and I noticed that this year\'s Saints have scored a total of 10 points in the first quarter, all 10 against the lowly 49er\'s (in a game we barely won). Maybe \"statistics are for losers,\" but I can\'t help but feel that stat may help explain why WE are such losers. 10 points in the first quarter through Week 10 of the season. Does that sound like the work of a top 10 quarterback to you guys? :P

11-26-2004, 08:36 AM	#7
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Lets see About AB Nope.

11-26-2004, 09:10 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Lets see About AB We have a defense on pace to finish within 16 yards of the worst defense in the ENTIRE HISTORY of the NFL and people still want to point to Brooks.

11-26-2004, 09:49 AM	#9
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Lets see About AB It\'s called padding stats. Too right Joe. But I saw this breakdown of his passing and thought it might be fun to dispel an Aaron Brook myth. Myth--It isn\'t Brooks fault, its all the drops. In the 2004 season, Brooks has made 368 attempts with 156 incompletions. There have been 17 drops making about 11% of all incompletions being drops. Now 11% of all incompletions sounds like a lot, like maybe enough to determine whether we win or lose a game. But then if you consider that 63 passes have just been poor throws, then you come up with about 40% of all incompletions. To put it in perspective. 4.6% of all passes are dropped. 17.1% of all passes are just bad throws. http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...ts.asp?id=4781
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11-26-2004, 09:55 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Lets see About AB It\'s called padding stats. It could just as easily be said that Joe Horn is a big beneficiary of that stat padding also. Funny, no one ever brings that up. [Edited on 26/11/2004 by Danno]