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I think Payton stays, if for no other reason than to prove he can win without Brees. I'd love for that QB to be Ryan Griffin, he has the size, the arm and hea for it.

Even by then the team should still have a good core of players from this group in their prime. Jordan, Hicks, Galette, Vaccaro on defense, Graham, Stills, Cooks, Armstead probably your core on offense and Graham would be the oldest of the bunch at 30 when the 2018 season starts. That's not bad at all.

Hate to break it to you, but Ryan Griffin is crap and is not the future.

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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 596401)

Hate to break it to you, but Ryan Griffin is crap and is not the future.

And you know this how?

2018? well a this rate the defense should be solid and we will be in the middle of rebuilding the offense. so i say he will stay

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 596319)

Does Payton sign a new contract and rebuild the offense?, does he follow the new more mobile QB system or stay with the same gameplan?

The great thing about Payton is that he adheres to no "system"; coaches like Mora that wanted fan bases and owners to wait for the right guys was a foolish approach...

You know Lee, the "mobile QB system" has always been around in various manifestations and at the end of the day, the last real, successful innovator has proven to be Bill Walsh and the West Coast variant of the Modern ProSet Offense established by Don Coryell...

Of note, the fact that Don Coryell has not been inducted in the Canton ProFootball HOF for his contribution totally invalidates the HOF...

Now, when you get down to it, teams have essentially three downs and a passing playbook geared to gain 11-14 yards per play - the real challenge is to get 11 guys coordinated in a timely placed symphony - and so the odds are there for success...

Yeah, I'm a Saints Homer, but Payton really fires me up and takes the fandom to another level because I can see how he masks his players faults and maximizes their strengths, surging with perfect timeliness - all the while his team is having great success...

As long as we don't ever go into 100% rebuild he stays.
Do thing right and be competitive every year.
The largest change we'll do is replace Brees... other than that we'll cut older veterans to sign younger cheaper talent.

He stays in 2018

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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 596401)

Hate to break it to you, but Ryan Griffin is crap and is not the future.

Hate to break it to you, but the Saints front office disagrees. I think I'll roll with their opinion over yours.

For my money Brees is extremely likely to finish his contract here with the Saints and then go play somewhere else for another expensive contract for a number of more years....no telling where it will be....similar to Favre or Vick or Archie Manning or countless others...to think that Brees is going to play out his days here and magically "retire a Saint" is extremely naive. We will be seeing Drew in the Dome wearing another teams colors, quite possibly for many years to come.

Payton on the other hand, I think the big ego thing for coaches is not to win it all with two different quarterbacks, but it's to win it all with two different TEAMS. That makes me think he will carry on life elsewhere as well. Where ever the money is good and the ownership situation is stable, he stands a good chance of ending up there. Especially Dallas when you project into the future, when certain things that are currently wrong with the team will be fixed.