No Graham no Sproles

Seer1 · 06-11-2014, 02:17 PM

Oh yeah, according to some of us, the absence of Sproles and Graham will only make us better. Others are rather militantly opposed to Jimmy being MIA. Personally, I'm glad Sproles is gone and think Graham not being around is helping Drew get to know the other receivers out there better. I'm more missing Cooks right now.

hagan714 · 06-11-2014, 04:44 PM

no biggie. Drew has a bunch of young pups he needs to train.

halloween 65 · 06-11-2014, 04:49 PM

Welcome!!

DevDev63 · 06-12-2014, 06:57 AM

Thanks for the welcomes guys. I am looking forward to seeing cooks get in here. Rather than our tried and true screens to PT we now have a nice option of some WR screens to him. Our offense is going to be killer this year

Rugby Saint II · 06-13-2014, 07:32 PM

All of a sudden we have a plethora of receivers.

pumpkindriver · 06-13-2014, 08:21 PM

Welcome to the best but lesser known Saint's forum. And if JG wants to keep being a complete poo head, he can watch us win the SB on his momma's couch.

Barry from MS · 06-13-2014, 09:49 PM

Nice comment right out of the shoot...

Without these 2, it gives the offense a chance to both gain trust in the route running/timing/etc and give a few of the bubble WR/RB/TE folks an opportunity to show what they can do in these OTAs. Drew often relied too heavily on Graham and Sproles in certain spots and defenses knew it. An NFL defense can shut down 2 "go-to guys" at a time with a coverage scheme; an NFL defense CANNOT shut down 4-5 "go-to guys" at a time with a coverage scheme. Doesn't bother me at all Sproles & Graham aren't here in OTA's...

burningmetal · 06-13-2014, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

I do too. I liked Hill in minimal action last year. Not as flashy as Graham, but I don't remember him dropping balls that hit his hands or alligator it.

I also think Cooks is going to be a better version of Sproles.

He dropped a couple fourth down passes, and failed on that reverse, and that pretty much summed up his season. Somehow, when we needed a first down most desperately Hill became the hot target. And failed.

What were they thinking? Who is he? Where did he come from? What has he EVER done? We sign Ben Watson and waste plays on Josh Hill instead. I don't ever want him to play for us again, that's how badly he failed in just a few plays.... Alright, I'm glad I let that out.

Danno · 06-14-2014, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

He dropped a couple fourth down passes, and failed on that reverse, and that pretty much summed up his season. Somehow, when we needed a first down most desperately Hill became the hot target. And failed.

What were they thinking? Who is he? Where did he come from? What has he EVER done? We sign Ben Watson and waste plays on Josh Hill instead. I don't ever want him to play for us again, that's how badly he failed in just a few plays.... Alright, I'm glad I let that out.

The reverse wasn't his fault, and one of the "drops" was a bad pass. It wasn't a drop. He only dropped one pass.

Did you miss the 6 catches he had in the regular season? Did you know the coaches love how he plays special teams? Did you miss his 2 catches in post-season? One for 9 yards against Philly and 1 for 23 yards against Seattle. Did you know he was an UDFA?

Hell he performed better against Seattle than Jimmy Graham did.

You wanna give up on a guy that has performed way better than most rookie UDFA's do?

I'd rather see how he progresses then decide if he's worth keeping or dumping.

Seer1 · 06-14-2014, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The reverse wasn't his fault, and one of the "drops" was a bad pass. It wasn't a drop. He only dropped one pass..

A tight end reverse? Really? If somebody's going to start in on anyone involved in a failed reverse with the Saints then Hill's going to have to get in a very long line. I hate when Sean calls a reverse.

06-11-2014, 02:17 PM	#11
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: No Graham no Sproles Oh yeah, according to some of us, the absence of Sproles and Graham will only make us better. Others are rather militantly opposed to Jimmy being MIA. Personally, I'm glad Sproles is gone and think Graham not being around is helping Drew get to know the other receivers out there better. I'm more missing Cooks right now.

06-11-2014, 04:44 PM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: No Graham no Sproles no biggie. Drew has a bunch of young pups he needs to train.

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DevDev63 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 7	Re: No Graham no Sproles Thanks for the welcomes guys. I am looking forward to seeing cooks get in here. Rather than our tried and true screens to PT we now have a nice option of some WR screens to him. Our offense is going to be killer this year
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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: No Graham no Sproles Nice comment right out of the shoot... Without these 2, it gives the offense a chance to both gain trust in the route running/timing/etc and give a few of the bubble WR/RB/TE folks an opportunity to show what they can do in these OTAs. Drew often relied too heavily on Graham and Sproles in certain spots and defenses knew it. An NFL defense can shut down 2 "go-to guys" at a time with a coverage scheme; an NFL defense CANNOT shut down 4-5 "go-to guys" at a time with a coverage scheme. Doesn't bother me at all Sproles & Graham aren't here in OTA's... Seer1 likes this.
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06-13-2014, 11:01 PM	#18
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,906 Blog Entries: 3	Re: No Graham no Sproles Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper I do too. I liked Hill in minimal action last year. Not as flashy as Graham, but I don't remember him dropping balls that hit his hands or alligator it. I also think Cooks is going to be a better version of Sproles. He dropped a couple fourth down passes, and failed on that reverse, and that pretty much summed up his season. Somehow, when we needed a first down most desperately Hill became the hot target. And failed. What were they thinking? Who is he? Where did he come from? What has he EVER done? We sign Ben Watson and waste plays on Josh Hill instead. I don't ever want him to play for us again, that's how badly he failed in just a few plays.... Alright, I'm glad I let that out.

06-14-2014, 12:11 PM	#19
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,650	Re: No Graham no Sproles Originally Posted by burningmetal He dropped a couple fourth down passes, and failed on that reverse, and that pretty much summed up his season. Somehow, when we needed a first down most desperately Hill became the hot target. And failed. What were they thinking? Who is he? Where did he come from? What has he EVER done? We sign Ben Watson and waste plays on Josh Hill instead. I don't ever want him to play for us again, that's how badly he failed in just a few plays.... Alright, I'm glad I let that out. The reverse wasn't his fault, and one of the "drops" was a bad pass. It wasn't a drop. He only dropped one pass. Did you miss the 6 catches he had in the regular season? Did you know the coaches love how he plays special teams? Did you miss his 2 catches in post-season? One for 9 yards against Philly and 1 for 23 yards against Seattle. Did you know he was an UDFA? Hell he performed better against Seattle than Jimmy Graham did. You wanna give up on a guy that has performed way better than most rookie UDFA's do? I'd rather see how he progresses then decide if he's worth keeping or dumping.

06-14-2014, 12:29 PM	#20
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: No Graham no Sproles Originally Posted by Danno The reverse wasn't his fault, and one of the "drops" was a bad pass. It wasn't a drop. He only dropped one pass.. A tight end reverse? Really? If somebody's going to start in on anyone involved in a failed reverse with the Saints then Hill's going to have to get in a very long line. I hate when Sean calls a reverse. pumpkindriver likes this.

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