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BrooksMustGo 12-01-2004 12:41 PM

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http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7947381

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Coach Butch Davis is out the door; who's next?
Pete Prisco
It has to be New Orleans Saints coach Jim Haslett, even though the problems there are much greater than just his coaching. The Saints have a losing feeling around the entire franchise, one that permeates the locker room. Haslett took this team to the playoffs in his first year, but in the past three his teams have been plagued by inconsistency, a big reason being the maturity of many of the players. There have been some bad personnel moves made as well -- see Jonathan Sullivan -- that have hurt the franchise in a big way. And has Aaron Brooks ever taken the next step? In the end, Haslett will be the fall guy. The reality is the front office should take a lot of the blame. Haslett knows football and how to motivate players. In time, he'll resurface. If he gets another shot, with a better organization, here's a bet that he has big-time success.

Clark Judge
That would be the Saints' Jim Haslett. Owner Tom Benson fired the first warning shot after his team was destroyed by Denver, describing it as "the worst performance I've seen from our club in my 20 years of owning them." That's not what I'd call an endorsement. The Saints need to finish with a flourish, and, I'm sorry, but the odds just aren't with Haslett. He lost two of his final four last season. He lost his final three the year before that. And he dropped four straight to finish 2001. If history tells us anything it's that the Saints won't have a winning season. The last time they reached the playoffs was 2000, and four consecutive seasons of so-so finishes is legitimate cause for dismissal. If I were Haslett, I'd audition for the next episode of House Hunters.
The buzzards are circling...

saintswhodi 12-01-2004 12:47 PM

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Yeah, but we don\'t wanna sacrifice the professionalism and ethics of the team by losing any more do we? ROFLMAO!!

Danno 12-01-2004 02:09 PM

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Haslett knows football and how to motivate players
??????????????
ROFLMAO!

spkb25 12-01-2004 06:29 PM

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well i was thinking some things here. after i read that has basically went crazy at half time on this team and then they came out and played the way they did maybe its not all coaching. and im pretty sure its not. i think if has gets another chance he will suceed. but i think whatever happen this past week at half time was long over due. and if the team responded that way and played as well as they did then maybe our players really arent that good. because in my opinion this loss hurt more then all the others. because i thought we played well enough to win. and if we still couldnt win then our team just isnt that good. because i do believe all our guys played hard. so what are we left with? probally a coaching staff that hasnt done anything to improve us and a team that isnt really that good. i think the blame goes to both the team and the coaching. also it was very disappointing to read that through out the league it was thought that that our gm was safe no matter what happen to has. now that may be a problem for even the next coach.

saintswhodi 12-01-2004 07:45 PM

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Hey spk, we only played well enough to win the second half. No team can win only showing up for a half of football. Haslett needed to lose it 2 seasons ago. Too late.

dberce1 12-02-2004 08:39 AM

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Haslett may get fired??? This is the first I\'ve heard of this. Is this true??

spkb25 12-02-2004 12:12 PM

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saintswhodi that is a real good point

WhoDat 12-02-2004 03:01 PM

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The reality is the front office should take a lot of the blame.
Hey Danno... Sing it with me!!!!!


M-I-C..... K-E-Y


M-O-U-S-E


Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck!
Mickey Loomis, Tom Benson!

Danno 12-03-2004 06:42 AM

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;) Gator, I give credit where credit\'s due. But to suggest 08 had it right with all those whacky one-sided conspiracy theories is so far out in left field its laughable.
I can\'t remember a single coherent post of any substance ever from 08.
Simply because every one of his posts was as negative as could be and now we\'re struggling doesn\'t mean his points were even close to accurate.
Most of his logic (if you could call it that) were gradeschool spurrious correlations.
Example...
Ice cream sales rise in the summer.
Rape increases in the summer.
Therefore ice cream causes rape.

Yeah, he had it right, and I\'ll bet you guys visit psychics every week and plan your days based on horoscopes too.
LMAO!

WhoDat 12-03-2004 10:54 AM

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Sure Danno - that\'s exactly the argument people like myself and Gator made. LOL

But why are you jumping in? You were always against AB, Haslett, and thought we just got unlucky in FA and the draft right? ;)

Danno 12-03-2004 11:58 AM

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Sure Danno - that\'s exactly the argument people like myself and Gator made. LOL

But why are you jumping in? You were always against AB, Haslett, and thought we just got unlucky in FA and the draft right? ;)
Uhhhhh... NO.
And I resent that coming from someone who thinks the only problem we have is Aaron Brooks! ;) LOL

mutineer10 12-04-2004 06:24 AM

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Ice cream sales rise in the summer.
Rape increases in the summer.
Therefore ice cream causes rape.
Does that mean I\'m more likely to commit rape if I eat alot of ice cream, or that I\'m more likely to get raped if I eat alot of it?

I think I\'m just gonna pass on the cookies & cream regardless ... no wait, it\'s not summer ...

Turdsicles for all, AB\'s treat!!!

[Edited on 4/12/2004 by mutineer10]

WhoDat 12-04-2004 08:36 AM

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We drafted Stupid, FA was a Joke, AB stinks, Haslett is crap & will get canned, the defense didn\'t improve.
Hey Dannoe, prior to the start of this season, which of those arguments did you make? Just wondering. :)

BrooksMustGo 12-04-2004 09:25 AM

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I\'ll save that conspiracy for 08 whose sitting back laughing at everyone here because those Wild, Crazy, Over the top post he got hounded about now seem not so crazy to some whom seem to be agreeing with alot of points he made....................................................................... .........................We drafted Stupid, FA was a Joke, AB stinks, Haslett is crap & will get canned, the defense didn\'t improve. Man, that guy was crazy right???
I don\'t think that 08 needs defending, but he doesn\'t need to be libeled either.

The fact that AB can\'t throw a touch pass was from 08. The fact that AB can\'t throw timing routes, from 08. The fact that 08 has to take long drops because he\'s waiting for the WR\'s to get separation, from 08. The fact that it doesn\'t matter who the LT tackle is, because Brooks will just back up into the rush anyway, from 08.

Now 08 didn\'t buy the spin from Haslett that we were just 1 more move away from being an NFC champion caliber team. 08 didn\'t buy that going from the heavy lunch bunch to the quick, agile defense was a coherent defensive philosophy. 08 didn\'t buy that TeBucky was the final piece of fixing the secondary or that the linebackers were just fine as they were. But most of all, 08 didn\'t believe that Haslett was building a 12-4 team.

I find every one of those arguments both lucid and compelling. 08 got accused of \"conspiracy theories\" simply because when 4-5 guys were all standing around saying-- \"Yeah with (insert name of draft pick or free agent here) we are a 12-4 team, 10-6 at the worst case scenario\"--08 called BS on them.

Showing that people were wrong about this team got 08 labeled. I\'m with Gator, I don\'t think that makes him sound crazy at all. What does seem peculiar to me is why the crowd that was wrong for years about this team persist in attacking 08?

[Edited on 4/12/2004 by BrooksMustGo]

Danno 12-05-2004 05:57 PM

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We drafted Stupid, FA was a Joke, AB stinks, Haslett is crap & will get canned, the defense didn\'t improve.
Hey Dannoe, prior to the start of this season, which of those arguments did you make? Just wondering. :)
OK Skippy-june, here\'s what I thought...
Draft:
Will Smith-Great pick.
Henderson-Fantastic prospect, but we had other needs. I wanted Donterrious Thomas, who was there by the way. He was in my sig for two months.
Karney, Watson, great picks. Can\'t argue.
Thought swapping 2004 3rd for a 2005 2nd was great.

FA-
Young-great pick, our best DT. Would be a star if we had a good 1-tech.
Craft-good pick for the money. Probably our 3rd best CB
T-rex, I said he was replacable, I was right.
CB-Disappointed we could land a top tier #2CB to compliment Freddy Thomas. I was wrong, Thomas isn\'t even a decent #2

AB-
Unlike Whodat, I think he\'s not the only problem. But I will admit I\'d like to see a change now just for a new identity.
JK Whodat, I\'ve fallen victim to the same idiotoc generalizations you have by calling out Deuce for his sub-par play so far.

Haslet is crap-
Been saying that for qiute a while. Glad to see your\'e on board now. ;) Said if he didn\'t produce this year he should get canned. Whats your gripe?

Defense didn\'t improve-
I was wrong about the d-line, right about the CB\'s and LB\'s.
I thought Sully would step up. He didn\'t. He\'s a 3 year younger version of Grady Jackson. Big time talent, no heart.

I thought a middle of the pack defense with relatively little turnover, and a few key players returning from injury might actually improve, instead of becoming the worst defense in the history of the entire NFL. Pretty shortsighted of me huh?

I see no basis for calling me out other than I said we had the POTENTIAL to be a 10-6 team with our coaching being the biggest problem.

Oh, and its Danno, not Dannoe. That looks gay.





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