Jimmy Graham......
 

I know some people may not want to hear this but I am really tired of this Jimmy Graham stuff. I hope the Saints can find a partner to do some kind of sign and trade thing. Maybe some team would be willing to give up a 1st and 3rd next year and a 2nd Rounder the year after. Then the Saints should sign Jermichael Finley to a deal.

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um...no...JG is only gonna get better

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yes i do agree with you but what happens if he is not happy next year since the Saints dont want to pay him what he wants? then what ? he leaves for nothing

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No you absolutely do not. By appealing, graham is buying time to work out a long term deal.

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i guess we shall see

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That's what I am thinking as well; just gives them more time to work out a long-term deal...

Doesn't really how much the tag is for, no one wants to play under it

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@AdamSchefter: Saints and Jimmy Graham closing in on long-term deal to make him highest-paid TE in NFL history. Now optimism deal done by Tues deadline.
Please, refrain from these emotional threads. None of us really know what's happening. It's the Brees scenario all over again, so let's try our best here.

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but how much can the Saints really afford to give him? is it really going to be worth it if he doesnt show up when we need him again ?

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Graham already accounts for 7 mil and change against the cap and we have 1.5 or something in room. A long term deal will free up some room this year b/c it will be backloaded, like Byrd's contract.

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Who are we to say? None of us truly know what the teams margin to the salary cap is and we're not signing the checks so we can't worry about whether or not it's worth it...

All we can do is trust in Loomis/Benson to do what they think is best for the team

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Jermichael Finley? No thanks. I'd rather play with a third tackle.

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Mitch is just going thread to thread calming everyone like the pope.

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Is it working? :rofl:

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I do feel a sense of calmness and serenity. Lol.

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well here's another:

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Terrible OP. You want to get rid of one of our best players because he's got a contract situation that's not gone as smoothly as possible, and what's even worse you want to sign crappy ass Jermichael Finley? My god...

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I'm sorry, business or not, JG has come off as looking greedy IMHO. The saints took a chance on him and developed him into the TE he is now and he seems like he is biting the hand that feeds him. Take his stats and line them up against the games he faced a top 15 defense. Doesn't look to good now does it ? That being said, I believe he is the best TE in the NFL right now but still has ALOT to learn about being a TE.

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Did you say the same about Brees during his contract negotiation?

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I absolutely did.

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You do understand that the players really have no part in contract negotiations and leave it mostly up to their agents?

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Um ... now that's just plain dumb ...

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I do understand that but I also understand that players usually choose their agents and they prolly talk to their agent from time to time about their contract.

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No. Many people actually think the players are driving negotiations while, in reality, it couldn't be further from the truth.

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Aren't we saying the same thing? It's the agents job to get the most money for his client he can...

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Every agent worth a crap makes sure that their client understands that anything whatsoever to do with contract negotiations will be handled by the agent ... before the agent even agrees to represent the player. Without this absolute trust the agent cannot do his, or her, job. The player is simply a spectator, especially in the case of a first major contract.

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himself

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Absolutely. I was supporting what you were saying.

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Thanks... I was confused, thought you were trying to argue :rofl:

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... which is a percentage of what the player gets. Exactly. That is the motivation to get the best deal possible. Don't blame the players.

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I agree completely. He is a great pass catching TE but this is unwanted stress. I say trade him to Cleveland for Cameron and a rd 1 next year.

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:doh:

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This is nothing like the Drew Brees ordeal. JG is a great pass catching TE but he is no Drew Brees.

Re: Jimmy Graham......
 

Take a drink and go to bed. It will all be better tomorrow. Stop freaking out over nothing. Geeze.

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Why would Cleveland trade Cameron and a 1st round pick for Graham?

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Why would they? makes no financial sense. Or makes no sense period.

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Because they have the cap room and need a star.

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Doesn't make any financial sense :rolleyes:

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Sure, they'll backload it like they always do, and people will say how genius that is. Until a couple years go by and we have to release a bunch of players, and then everyone will will say "why did we let so and so get away?".

Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and make some sacrifices, but I'm becoming less impressed with the Saints' negotiating tactics as it seems almost all they do anymore is backload contracts. Stop overpaying people and you won't have to constantly push back all this money to delay the inevitable.

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They're "backloading" contracts to get the best talent on the field while we have Drew under center. Sooner rather than later, he'll be retiring and then it would seem that our window maybe closed...

Not too mention that with the salary cap going up, in later years we possibly could afford to do this now and not have to restructure as much down the road