Graham into Galvatron ? Graham 2.0 !

Papa Voodoo · 07-16-2014, 12:26 PM

Jimmy was lighting the league on fire until the NE game. Talib is one of few corners that can cover Jimmy. Talib took himself out of the game doing it too. That's also the game where Jimmy tore his tendon. He wasn't the same after that. He still played, but it was remiscient of Shockey having to score TDs on one leg...the extra gear and jumping were gone. He had the wrist the year before. Before that he was out of the playoffs vs. Seattle. He's physical, but he needs to protect his body a little better. He plays like Ed McCaffrey.

ScottF · 07-16-2014, 12:59 PM

I keep reading about top CB's shutting Graham down.
1) It says a lot that defenses recognize JG's talent and use their #1 on him
2) It shows our weakness at WR last year

hopefully Stills and Cooks draw more attention this year

Danno · 07-16-2014, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

I keep reading about top CB's shutting Graham down.
1) It says a lot that defenses recognize JG's talent and use their #1 on him
2) It shows our weakness at WR last year

hopefully Stills and Cooks draw more attention this year

True, if Jimmy took their #1 CB out of the game, we should have been able to burn them with our other weapons either by run or by pass. Where was Colston? Moore? Stills? Ingram? PT? Sproles?

The addition of Cooks will certainly help.

halloween 65 · 07-16-2014, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

True, if Jimmy took their #1 CB out of the game, we should have been able to burn them with our other weapons either by run or by pass. Where was Colston? Moore? Stills? Ingram? PT? Sproles?

The addition of Cooks will certainly help.

The O-line was the problem last season. Brees was running for his life back there, to me that was the problem, with more time to throw the happy feet syndrome goes away and the timing gets better. I will say all our WR do need to get off the line better,TE's included. I agree the run would take alot off but you know Payton, throw, throw, throw, that is the only knock I have ever had with him.

Rugby Saint II · 07-16-2014, 07:05 PM

Just keep developing your craft son..........set more records and ignore the nay sayers.

Audiotom · 07-16-2014, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Jimmy was lighting the league on fire until the NE game. Talib is one of few corners that can cover Jimmy. Talib took himself out of the game doing it too. That's also the game where Jimmy tore his tendon. He wasn't the same after that. He still played, but it was remiscient of Shockey having to score TDs on one leg...the extra gear and jumping were gone. He had the wrist the year before. Before that he was out of the playoffs vs. Seattle. He's physical, but he needs to protect his body a little better. He plays like Ed McCaffrey.

Talib, Kuechly and the Seattle guys were wearing him as a blanket

Problem is the refs don't feel as anxious to throw a flag with such a large specimen being defended

hagan714 · 07-16-2014, 10:34 PM

he is not a great TE
he is not a great WR

he is a freak some where in the middle. A freak that will one day cause the NFL to come up with a new position title for players like him. there are more and more coming up in the ranks now. by the time he hangs up his cleats i can imagine three or four huge impact players in the nfl like him.

now the defenses are always one step behind so it will be fun to watch the development of players to stop these guys.

Papa Voodoo · 07-18-2014, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

Talib, Kuechly and the Seattle guys were wearing him as a blanket

Problem is the refs don't feel as anxious to throw a flag with such a large specimen being defended

David and Goliath. If David had kicked Goliath in the balls or poked him in the eye it would be justified, but dirty if Goliath did it to David.

Shaq had this problem his whole career. He got fouled all of the time, but he was so big and strong it didn't get called like it would for a smaller player.

Papa Voodoo · 07-18-2014, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

he is not a great TE
he is not a great WR

he is a freak some where in the middle. A freak that will one day cause the NFL to come up with a new position title for players like him. there are more and more coming up in the ranks now. by the time he hangs up his cleats i can imagine three or four huge impact players in the nfl like him.

now the defenses are always one step behind so it will be fun to watch the development of players to stop these guys.

Split End?

billyt81 · 07-19-2014, 01:00 AM

I agree with the articles assertion that Graham is comparable to Calvin Johnson. Graham led the NFL in fade route catches last year. He has ridiculous physical tools. 6"6 260 lbs and running 4.4 40 yd dash. He claims this and it looks that way on the field. I've never seen a linebacker run with him. The duo of Cooks and Graham is gonna be special and The Saints offense this year is gonna be outrageous.

07-16-2014, 12:26 PM	#11
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Graham into Galvatron ? Graham 2.0 ! Jimmy was lighting the league on fire until the NE game. Talib is one of few corners that can cover Jimmy. Talib took himself out of the game doing it too. That's also the game where Jimmy tore his tendon. He wasn't the same after that. He still played, but it was remiscient of Shockey having to score TDs on one leg...the extra gear and jumping were gone. He had the wrist the year before. Before that he was out of the playoffs vs. Seattle. He's physical, but he needs to protect his body a little better. He plays like Ed McCaffrey.

07-16-2014, 12:59 PM	#12
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Graham into Galvatron ? Graham 2.0 ! I keep reading about top CB's shutting Graham down. 1) It says a lot that defenses recognize JG's talent and use their #1 on him 2) It shows our weakness at WR last year hopefully Stills and Cooks draw more attention this year Danno and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Graham into Galvatron ? Graham 2.0 ! Originally Posted by ScottF I keep reading about top CB's shutting Graham down. 1) It says a lot that defenses recognize JG's talent and use their #1 on him 2) It shows our weakness at WR last year hopefully Stills and Cooks draw more attention this year True, if Jimmy took their #1 CB out of the game, we should have been able to burn them with our other weapons either by run or by pass. Where was Colston? Moore? Stills? Ingram? PT? Sproles? The addition of Cooks will certainly help.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Graham into Galvatron ? Graham 2.0 ! Originally Posted by Danno True, if Jimmy took their #1 CB out of the game, we should have been able to burn them with our other weapons either by run or by pass. Where was Colston? Moore? Stills? Ingram? PT? Sproles? The addition of Cooks will certainly help. The O-line was the problem last season. Brees was running for his life back there, to me that was the problem, with more time to throw the happy feet syndrome goes away and the timing gets better. I will say all our WR do need to get off the line better,TE's included. I agree the run would take alot off but you know Payton, throw, throw, throw, that is the only knock I have ever had with him.

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Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Graham into Galvatron ? Graham 2.0 ! Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Jimmy was lighting the league on fire until the NE game. Talib is one of few corners that can cover Jimmy. Talib took himself out of the game doing it too. That's also the game where Jimmy tore his tendon. He wasn't the same after that. He still played, but it was remiscient of Shockey having to score TDs on one leg...the extra gear and jumping were gone. He had the wrist the year before. Before that he was out of the playoffs vs. Seattle. He's physical, but he needs to protect his body a little better. He plays like Ed McCaffrey. Talib, Kuechly and the Seattle guys were wearing him as a blanket Problem is the refs don't feel as anxious to throw a flag with such a large specimen being defended

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Graham into Galvatron ? Graham 2.0 ! he is not a great TE he is not a great WR he is a freak some where in the middle. A freak that will one day cause the NFL to come up with a new position title for players like him. there are more and more coming up in the ranks now. by the time he hangs up his cleats i can imagine three or four huge impact players in the nfl like him. now the defenses are always one step behind so it will be fun to watch the development of players to stop these guys.

07-18-2014, 11:13 AM	#18
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Graham into Galvatron ? Graham 2.0 ! Originally Posted by Audiotom Talib, Kuechly and the Seattle guys were wearing him as a blanket Problem is the refs don't feel as anxious to throw a flag with such a large specimen being defended David and Goliath. If David had kicked Goliath in the balls or poked him in the eye it would be justified, but dirty if Goliath did it to David. Shaq had this problem his whole career. He got fouled all of the time, but he was so big and strong it didn't get called like it would for a smaller player.

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billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Graham into Galvatron ? Graham 2.0 ! I agree with the articles assertion that Graham is comparable to Calvin Johnson. Graham led the NFL in fade route catches last year. He has ridiculous physical tools. 6"6 260 lbs and running 4.4 40 yd dash. He claims this and it looks that way on the field. I've never seen a linebacker run with him. The duo of Cooks and Graham is gonna be special and The Saints offense this year is gonna be outrageous.

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