Jimmy Graham: "I want to help bring another Lombardi Trophy to New Orleans"

07-16-2014, 04:54 PM

After giving it a lot of thought Drew Brees was the one trying to force it to Jimmy Graham all the time. A lot of his picks were when he was trying to let Graham make a play. He doesn't spread it like he used to. He just doesn't seem as magical as he once did.

SmashMouth · 07-16-2014, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Read the story and find out yourself.

I did .... and he does not address those concerns in the article, even if some fans don't care about those concerns. It's really about being better and getting better, kinda like Tony Gonzales did. Time will tell, of course.

Audiotom · 07-16-2014, 05:58 PM

Jimmy

W love you, welcome back!

Focus on blocking, making the defensive backs pass interference more obvious and separation at the line. Maybe Champ Bailey could teach you a thing or two.

If you do go for a td celebration how about running up to the goal post and just touching the ball lightly to the center upright

AsylumGuido · 07-16-2014, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I did .... and he does not address those concerns in the article, even if some fans don't care about those concerns. It's really about being better and getting better, kinda like Tony Gonzales did. Time will tell, of course.

Nor should he because I doubt Payton or himself see it as near as much of a liability as do some fans. Gonzo and Graham, while both have similar backgrounds in basketball, have far different body types. Graham may be able to add another 15 pounds of bulk in the lower body to give him better leverage in blocking, but it would most likely hamper his ability to do what makes him such a weapon. It is simply not worth it to try to change him. Graham is long and lean. He does not have the build to be a good run blocker. But, that should not and does not diminish his incredible value as a playmaker.

All I can say is be glad that we have this great talent on our team and it does no good to you or anyone to look for the negatives when the positives far, far outweigh.

AsylumGuido · 07-16-2014, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

Jimmy

W love you, welcome back!

Focus on blocking, making the defensive backs pass interference more obvious and separation at the line. Maybe Champ Bailey could teach you a thing or two.

If you do go for a td celebration how about running up to the goal post and just touching the ball lightly to the center upright

If trying to focus on anything else lessens his ability to make plays I would be forced to disagree.

Danno · 07-16-2014, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If trying to focus on anything else lessens his ability to make plays I would be forced to disagree.

He had trouble with drops, worked on it and improved
He had trouble breaking tackles, worked on it and improved

I fully expect he will improve his blocking as well as his breaking jams and holds by physical CB's.

This kid loves to improve his game and hasn't given any reason to anybody that he won't keep improving all aspects of his game.

Rugby Saint II · 07-16-2014, 07:00 PM

I'm down with you Jimmy..........go get it.

AsylumGuido · 07-16-2014, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

He had trouble with drops, worked on it and improved
He had trouble breaking tackles, worked on it and improved

I fully expect he will improve his blocking as well as his breaking jams and holds by physical CB's.

This kid loves to improve his game and hasn't given any reason to anybody that he won't keep improving all aspects of his game.

No, he never had trouble with drops when healthy. His drop percentage in 2011 was only 3.4% with five total drops. In 2013 it was 2.1% with three drops.

The perception that he had drop problems were based upon the 2012 season when he played with the bad wrist. That year he dropped one out of every ten opportunities (over 10%), yet he was tough enough to keep playing through the injury.

Danno · 07-16-2014, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No, he never had trouble with drops when healthy. His drop percentage in 2011 was only 3.4% with five total drops. In 2013 it was 2.1% with three drops.

The perception that he had drop problems were based upon the 2012 season when he played with the bad wrist. That year he dropped one out of every ten opportunities (over 10%), yet he was tough enough to keep playing through the injury.

If you attribute the drops to the wrist injury, then sure.

And I might add staying healthy to the list of things I expect him to improve on.

AsylumGuido · 07-16-2014, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

If you attribute the drops to the wrist injury, then sure.

And I might add staying healthy to the list of things I expect him to improve on.

The drops were clearly a part of the wrist injury, but I agree, staying healthy would be great.

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07-16-2014, 05:21 PM	#12
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jimmy Graham: "I want to help bring another Lombardi Trophy to New Orleans" Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Read the story and find out yourself. I did .... and he does not address those concerns in the article, even if some fans don't care about those concerns. It's really about being better and getting better, kinda like Tony Gonzales did. Time will tell, of course.

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Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jimmy Graham: "I want to help bring another Lombardi Trophy to New Orleans" Jimmy W love you, welcome back! Focus on blocking, making the defensive backs pass interference more obvious and separation at the line. Maybe Champ Bailey could teach you a thing or two. If you do go for a td celebration how about running up to the goal post and just touching the ball lightly to the center upright

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Jimmy Graham: "I want to help bring another Lombardi Trophy to New Orleans" Originally Posted by SmashMouth I did .... and he does not address those concerns in the article, even if some fans don't care about those concerns. It's really about being better and getting better, kinda like Tony Gonzales did. Time will tell, of course. Nor should he because I doubt Payton or himself see it as near as much of a liability as do some fans. Gonzo and Graham, while both have similar backgrounds in basketball, have far different body types. Graham may be able to add another 15 pounds of bulk in the lower body to give him better leverage in blocking, but it would most likely hamper his ability to do what makes him such a weapon. It is simply not worth it to try to change him. Graham is long and lean. He does not have the build to be a good run blocker. But, that should not and does not diminish his incredible value as a playmaker. All I can say is be glad that we have this great talent on our team and it does no good to you or anyone to look for the negatives when the positives far, far outweigh.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Jimmy Graham: "I want to help bring another Lombardi Trophy to New Orleans" Originally Posted by Audiotom Jimmy W love you, welcome back! Focus on blocking, making the defensive backs pass interference more obvious and separation at the line. Maybe Champ Bailey could teach you a thing or two. If you do go for a td celebration how about running up to the goal post and just touching the ball lightly to the center upright If trying to focus on anything else lessens his ability to make plays I would be forced to disagree.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Jimmy Graham: "I want to help bring another Lombardi Trophy to New Orleans" Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If trying to focus on anything else lessens his ability to make plays I would be forced to disagree. He had trouble with drops, worked on it and improved He had trouble breaking tackles, worked on it and improved I fully expect he will improve his blocking as well as his breaking jams and holds by physical CB's. This kid loves to improve his game and hasn't given any reason to anybody that he won't keep improving all aspects of his game. SaintFanInATLHELL, SmashMouth and Mr.Riaton like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Jimmy Graham: "I want to help bring another Lombardi Trophy to New Orleans" Originally Posted by Danno He had trouble with drops, worked on it and improved He had trouble breaking tackles, worked on it and improved I fully expect he will improve his blocking as well as his breaking jams and holds by physical CB's. This kid loves to improve his game and hasn't given any reason to anybody that he won't keep improving all aspects of his game. No, he never had trouble with drops when healthy. His drop percentage in 2011 was only 3.4% with five total drops. In 2013 it was 2.1% with three drops. The perception that he had drop problems were based upon the 2012 season when he played with the bad wrist. That year he dropped one out of every ten opportunities (over 10%), yet he was tough enough to keep playing through the injury.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Jimmy Graham: "I want to help bring another Lombardi Trophy to New Orleans" Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No, he never had trouble with drops when healthy. His drop percentage in 2011 was only 3.4% with five total drops. In 2013 it was 2.1% with three drops. The perception that he had drop problems were based upon the 2012 season when he played with the bad wrist. That year he dropped one out of every ten opportunities (over 10%), yet he was tough enough to keep playing through the injury. If you attribute the drops to the wrist injury, then sure. And I might add staying healthy to the list of things I expect him to improve on.

07-16-2014, 07:53 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Jimmy Graham: "I want to help bring another Lombardi Trophy to New Orleans" Originally Posted by Danno If you attribute the drops to the wrist injury, then sure. And I might add staying healthy to the list of things I expect him to improve on. The drops were clearly a part of the wrist injury, but I agree, staying healthy would be great.

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