look ma no hands

neugey · 12-06-2004, 01:51 PM

AB and Haz are getting a lot of the blame for the Saints failures and deservedly so. But there is another key area for the blame and that it the hands and receiving ability of our skill players. I'm near Viking country and my boss and wife are both Vikings fans so I end up seeing a lot of their games. Even though they lost Randy Moss, the bright spot on their team is that TE Wiggins and WR Burleson, though hardly speed merchants, can catch everything thrown their way. Even though Randy Moss is still really gimpy, his hands are great and he helps the team get first downs. The Vikings have lost some games lately, but at least they have good possession guys to keep the chains moving; they've self-destructed in other phases of the game.

The Saints have seriously over-valued speed. Speed only makes a difference in a limited number of situations, yet the Saints keep looking for fast receivers (Stallworth, Pathon, Gardner and Henderson maybe) with disregard for players who know how to exploit coverage and catch the ball. Letting Willie Jackson (who had a good chemistry w/ Brooks) go after Haz's first year was a major mistake that has gone somewhat unnoticed.

Part of the problem with the 3-and-outs is that Joe Horn is the only receiver that make a play catching the ball. And the problems is more than just drops, it's about good route running and adjusting to the defense.

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Danno · 12-06-2004, 01:57 PM

AB and Haz are getting a lot of the blame for the Saints failures and deservedly so. But there is another key area for the blame and that it the hands and receiving ability of our skill players. I\'m near Viking country and my boss and wife are both Vikings fans so I end up seeing a lot of their games. Even though they lost Randy Moss, the bright spot on their team is that TE Wiggins and WR Burleson, though hardly speed merchants, can catch everything thrown their way. Even though Randy Moss is still really gimpy, his hands are great and he helps the team get first downs. The Vikings have lost some games lately, but at least they have good possession guys to keep the chains moving; they\'ve self-destructed in other phases of the game.

The Saints have seriously over-valued speed. Speed only makes a difference in a limited number of situations, yet the Saints keep looking for fast receivers (Stallworth, Pathon, Gardner and Henderson maybe) with disregard for players who know how to exploit coverage and catch the ball. Letting Willie Jackson (who had a good chemistry w/ Brooks) go after Haz\'s first year was a major mistake that has gone somewhat unnoticed.

Part of the problem with the 3-and-outs is that Joe Horn is the only receiver that make a play catching the ball.

Good point. Our most productive WR is also our slowest.
And even he drops passes left and right.

BlackandBlue · 12-06-2004, 02:17 PM

Horn is faster than Gardner.

WhoDat · 12-06-2004, 02:45 PM

All the more reason to have kept Willie Jackson, who also lead the team in YAC.

12-06-2004, 01:51 PM	#1
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	look ma no hands AB and Haz are getting a lot of the blame for the Saints failures and deservedly so. But there is another key area for the blame and that it the hands and receiving ability of our skill players. I'm near Viking country and my boss and wife are both Vikings fans so I end up seeing a lot of their games. Even though they lost Randy Moss, the bright spot on their team is that TE Wiggins and WR Burleson, though hardly speed merchants, can catch everything thrown their way. Even though Randy Moss is still really gimpy, his hands are great and he helps the team get first downs. The Vikings have lost some games lately, but at least they have good possession guys to keep the chains moving; they've self-destructed in other phases of the game. The Saints have seriously over-valued speed. Speed only makes a difference in a limited number of situations, yet the Saints keep looking for fast receivers (Stallworth, Pathon, Gardner and Henderson maybe) with disregard for players who know how to exploit coverage and catch the ball. Letting Willie Jackson (who had a good chemistry w/ Brooks) go after Haz's first year was a major mistake that has gone somewhat unnoticed. Part of the problem with the 3-and-outs is that Joe Horn is the only receiver that make a play catching the ball. And the problems is more than just drops, it's about good route running and adjusting to the defense. [Edited on 6/12/2004 by neugey] [Edited on 6/12/2004 by neugey] [Edited on 6/12/2004 by neugey]

12-06-2004, 01:57 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	look ma no hands AB and Haz are getting a lot of the blame for the Saints failures and deservedly so. But there is another key area for the blame and that it the hands and receiving ability of our skill players. I\'m near Viking country and my boss and wife are both Vikings fans so I end up seeing a lot of their games. Even though they lost Randy Moss, the bright spot on their team is that TE Wiggins and WR Burleson, though hardly speed merchants, can catch everything thrown their way. Even though Randy Moss is still really gimpy, his hands are great and he helps the team get first downs. The Vikings have lost some games lately, but at least they have good possession guys to keep the chains moving; they\'ve self-destructed in other phases of the game. The Saints have seriously over-valued speed. Speed only makes a difference in a limited number of situations, yet the Saints keep looking for fast receivers (Stallworth, Pathon, Gardner and Henderson maybe) with disregard for players who know how to exploit coverage and catch the ball. Letting Willie Jackson (who had a good chemistry w/ Brooks) go after Haz\'s first year was a major mistake that has gone somewhat unnoticed. Part of the problem with the 3-and-outs is that Joe Horn is the only receiver that make a play catching the ball. Good point. Our most productive WR is also our slowest. And even he drops passes left and right.

12-06-2004, 02:17 PM	#3
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	look ma no hands Horn is faster than Gardner.

12-06-2004, 02:45 PM	#4
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	look ma no hands All the more reason to have kept Willie Jackson, who also lead the team in YAC.
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