Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down

Jack Vegas · 07-29-2014, 12:52 AM

^ I'm not counting out Bailey, but Robinson basically beat out Greer for the #2 CB last season. It didn't start off that way, but by the middle of the 2nd quarter against the Falcons Robinson was getting most of the playing time and Greer was nickel. It stayed that way until Robinson got hurt against the Bucs. Incidentally he was covering Vincent Jackson almost exclusively that day, so he may have even been considered the #1 CB at that point (remember though Keenan struggled a little bit early on).

If Robinson is full strength and his leg is good I think he's easily our 2nd best corner. Either way I expect there will be a healthy rotation so we can throw a lot of different looks at them. White and Bush both got a ton of playing time early on last season despite being low on the depth chart. It's essentially the same thing we do on offense where even our biggest playmakers are only playing about 65-70% of the snaps.

SaintLeonard · 07-29-2014, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

^ I'm not counting out Bailey, but Robinson basically beat out Greer for the #2 CB last season. It didn't start off that way, but by the middle of the 2nd quarter against the Falcons Robinson was getting most of the playing time and Greer was nickel. It stayed that way until Robinson got hurt against the Bucs. Incidentally he was covering Vincent Jackson almost exclusively that day, so he may have even been considered the #1 CB at that point (remember though Keenan struggled a little bit early on).

If Robinson is full strength and his leg is good I think he's easily our 2nd best corner. Either way I expect there will be a healthy rotation so we can throw a lot of different looks at them. White and Bush both got a ton of playing time early on last season despite being low on the depth chart. It's essentially the same thing we do on offense where even our biggest playmakers are only playing about 65-70% of the snaps.

I say Corey White stays our #2 CB, with Bailey in the nickel. White did an awesome job last year all things considered. He was pretty much thrown into the fire with not a lot of experience at the CB position, and of course he had a few bumps here and there, but he progressively got better as the season went on. If his level of play from last year carries over into this year, I don't see any reason why he'd be unseated at the position.

hagan714 · 07-30-2014, 10:28 AM

If healthy Robinson should win the #2

Now White and Champ man the middle.

Champ gets the quicker slot

White goes strong side (TE) and has running back duties.

I today's pass happy NFL it is weird to be using nickle and dime as much as it is SS and FS.

There is no such thing as a pure SS any more. same goes for CB now.

zachsaints52 · 07-30-2014, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

If healthy Robinson should win the #2

Now White and Champ man the middle.

Champ gets the quicker slot

White goes strong side (TE) and has running back duties.

I today's pass happy NFL it is weird to be using nickle and dime as much as it is SS and FS.

There is no such thing as a pure SS any more. same goes for CB now.

Or we could have Kenny, Bush, and Byrd instead of our 4th CB. Our 3rd safety is better than some teams starting safeties.

Rugby Saint II · 07-31-2014, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by zachsaints52

Or we could have Kenny, Bush, and Byrd instead of our 4th CB. Our 3rd safety is better than some teams starting safeties.

I may be excited the most by the safety battle. We have pretty darn good looking depth there.

hagan714 · 08-01-2014, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by zachsaints52

Or we could have Kenny, Bush, and Byrd instead of our 4th CB. Our 3rd safety is better than some teams starting safeties.

i see were your going here and i see the saints using packages like this. but when it comes to the secondary i always count them healthy for at the most 14 games. they drop like flies back there. minor ankles knees shoulder concussions and such seems to sideline them for at least two games. good year is not having the nagging injuries over lap.

you can never have enough good secondary players on your team

07-29-2014, 12:52 AM	#1
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down ^ I'm not counting out Bailey, but Robinson basically beat out Greer for the #2 CB last season. It didn't start off that way, but by the middle of the 2nd quarter against the Falcons Robinson was getting most of the playing time and Greer was nickel. It stayed that way until Robinson got hurt against the Bucs. Incidentally he was covering Vincent Jackson almost exclusively that day, so he may have even been considered the #1 CB at that point (remember though Keenan struggled a little bit early on). If Robinson is full strength and his leg is good I think he's easily our 2nd best corner. Either way I expect there will be a healthy rotation so we can throw a lot of different looks at them. White and Bush both got a ton of playing time early on last season despite being low on the depth chart. It's essentially the same thing we do on offense where even our biggest playmakers are only playing about 65-70% of the snaps.
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07-30-2014, 10:28 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down If healthy Robinson should win the #2 Now White and Champ man the middle. Champ gets the quicker slot White goes strong side (TE) and has running back duties. I today's pass happy NFL it is weird to be using nickle and dime as much as it is SS and FS. There is no such thing as a pure SS any more. same goes for CB now.

07-30-2014, 06:05 PM	#4
zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down Originally Posted by hagan714 If healthy Robinson should win the #2 Now White and Champ man the middle. Champ gets the quicker slot White goes strong side (TE) and has running back duties. I today's pass happy NFL it is weird to be using nickle and dime as much as it is SS and FS. There is no such thing as a pure SS any more. same goes for CB now. Or we could have Kenny, Bush, and Byrd instead of our 4th CB. Our 3rd safety is better than some teams starting safeties. hagan714 likes this.

07-31-2014, 06:03 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,204	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down Originally Posted by zachsaints52 Or we could have Kenny, Bush, and Byrd instead of our 4th CB. Our 3rd safety is better than some teams starting safeties. I may be excited the most by the safety battle. We have pretty darn good looking depth there.

08-01-2014, 06:42 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down Originally Posted by zachsaints52 Or we could have Kenny, Bush, and Byrd instead of our 4th CB. Our 3rd safety is better than some teams starting safeties. i see were your going here and i see the saints using packages like this. but when it comes to the secondary i always count them healthy for at the most 14 games. they drop like flies back there. minor ankles knees shoulder concussions and such seems to sideline them for at least two games. good year is not having the nagging injuries over lap. you can never have enough good secondary players on your team

07-29-2014, 03:51 PM	#2
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Camp Stock up/ Camp Stock Down Originally Posted by Jack Vegas ^ I'm not counting out Bailey, but Robinson basically beat out Greer for the #2 CB last season. It didn't start off that way, but by the middle of the 2nd quarter against the Falcons Robinson was getting most of the playing time and Greer was nickel. It stayed that way until Robinson got hurt against the Bucs. Incidentally he was covering Vincent Jackson almost exclusively that day, so he may have even been considered the #1 CB at that point (remember though Keenan struggled a little bit early on). If Robinson is full strength and his leg is good I think he's easily our 2nd best corner. Either way I expect there will be a healthy rotation so we can throw a lot of different looks at them. White and Bush both got a ton of playing time early on last season despite being low on the depth chart. It's essentially the same thing we do on offense where even our biggest playmakers are only playing about 65-70% of the snaps. I say Corey White stays our #2 CB, with Bailey in the nickel. White did an awesome job last year all things considered. He was pretty much thrown into the fire with not a lot of experience at the CB position, and of course he had a few bumps here and there, but he progressively got better as the season went on. If his level of play from last year carries over into this year, I don't see any reason why he'd be unseated at the position.

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