Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches

AsylumGuido · 08-09-2014, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Show US that clip. I call major bull****.

Who recorded the game? Verify what he claims or prove him wrong.

Cruize · 08-09-2014, 06:57 PM

You have to want to block, i.e. get physical, and at the very least engage a defender to to accomplish anything. You don't have to maul him. You don't have to pancake him. Just put in the effort and engage him. If you're engaged with a defender, at the very least he's going to have to work around or through you. Even if a defender trucks you, he had to take the time and effort to do so. That gives the ball carrier atleast a shot to avoid him.

dizzle88 · 08-09-2014, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Who recorded the game? Verify what he claims or prove him wrong.

In all fairness, Jimmy whiffed that block, the two Ingram runs previously Graham played a big part in him springing it free

However the cadet run, Jimmy did look like he didn't want to block their DE and he got round Jimmy incredibly easy

saintsfan403 · 08-09-2014, 07:13 PM

I just rewatched that play, Simms swam the f*ck out of Graham, but Graham over extended as well. It was a pretty bad play by JG but I would be pretty hard pressed to say he was playing matador on that one.

AsylumGuido · 08-09-2014, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

I just rewatched that play, Simms swam the f*ck out of Graham, but Graham over extended as well. It was a pretty bad play by JG but I would be pretty hard pressed to say he was playing matador on that one.

So basically, the accusing poster was full of crap ... as usual when he repeatedly bashes Graham.

dizzle88 · 08-10-2014, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So basically, the accusing poster was full of crap ... as usual when he repeatedly bashes Graham.

Really no need to start insulting people about it, Graham made some good blocks to spring Ingram on his runs but the cadet one was a terrible play on Graham's part, Simms made it look like Graham wasn't even there

hagan714 · 08-10-2014, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It is really sad that you have this hatred in you.

Standing there looking for a person to block means that there was no one there to block. Get over it. You are beginning to sound foolish with this Graham bashing.

hate? no where did i ever say i hated the guy. this is all bout his contract and last statements thats all.

look jimmy size limits his ability to block thats all. he is not a complete TE nor will he ever be, it is physically impossible for him to be. he needs to become a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all.

i want to see him perform a text book block. sorry there too few players tall enough for him to do it to. too tall jones retired

jimmy size also limits his quickness out of a stance or getting out of the block. it is just the laws of physics.

Once again Jimmy is not a great blocker. he is ok and could use some work. I will repeat it again: a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all.

but that is not what we pay him for by any means.

damn i just deleted the game. the block i believe was towards the end of the first half. the DE or LB blew right between the TE and LT. he came through clean. blown assignment? just a good play the defender? does not really matter to tell you the truth. it was funny to see him standing there looking confused. I can point out a ton of players that look that way in this game and yes i shook my head and laughed at each one. so jimmy aint alone on this one.

remember the rams are a good team. so it will happen. plus by the end of the game i say the rams depth chart is way more athletic than ours is.

just some bread and butter and a bit of jam

his bread and butter we all know

bit of Jam is his blocking

I was trying to be lite heart-ed about the whole thing.

Schmohams · 08-10-2014, 09:41 AM

I think the reason Jimmy's blocking is in question is because we throw a majority of the time when he's in, that and Gronk fan girls and trying to show us why they think he is better than Jimmy.

AsylumGuido · 08-10-2014, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

hate? no where did i ever say i hated the guy. this is all bout his contract and last statements thats all.

look jimmy size limits his ability to block thats all. he is not a complete TE nor will he ever be, it is physically impossible for him to be. he needs to become a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all.

i want to see him perform a text book block. sorry there too few players tall enough for him to do it to. too tall jones retired

jimmy size also limits his quickness out of a stance or getting out of the block. it is just the laws of physics.

Once again Jimmy is not a great blocker. he is ok and could use some work. I will repeat it again: a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all.

but that is not what we pay him for by any means.

damn i just deleted the game. the block i believe was towards the end of the first half. the DE or LB blew right between the TE and LT. he came through clean. blown assignment? just a good play the defender? does not really matter to tell you the truth. it was funny to see him standing there looking confused. I can point out a ton of players that look that way in this game and yes i shook my head and laughed at each one. so jimmy aint alone on this one.

remember the rams are a good team. so it will happen. plus by the end of the game i say the rams depth chart is way more athletic than ours is.

just some bread and butter and a bit of jam

his bread and butter we all know

bit of Jam is his blocking

I was trying to be lite heart-ed about the whole thing.

So how does Graham get the blame when the LT let him go, too? It is the LT's primary job to block and you give him no grief? You pick out one play to bash Graham on.

hagan714 · 08-10-2014, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So how does Graham get the blame when the LT let him go, too? It is the LT's primary job to block and you give him no grief? You pick out one play to bash Graham on.

i was not bashing the guy. like i said who blew the assignment or just a great defensive play it did not matter really.

litto did the same thing when he or the guard missed a stunt.

the response when they just stand there dumb founded, looking all around with their hands out looking for a block. is funny in the preseason.

Jimmy is ok and at has his moments were he is good but never a great blocker. it is just a fact.

he really is just now to the point were he can start really worrying about more of the other stuff. 1 year of college ball then to the pros? he is just now got the receiving part mastered. that is freaking scary.

I am no way looking for Jimmy to be praised by the NFL for his blocking skills nor do i expect it.

trust me there were a ton of players on the field that night doing the same thing

pre season game 1 thats is funny stuff

08-09-2014, 06:16 PM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Show US that clip. I call major bull****. Who recorded the game? Verify what he claims or prove him wrong.

08-09-2014, 06:57 PM	#22
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches You have to want to block, i.e. get physical, and at the very least engage a defender to to accomplish anything. You don't have to maul him. You don't have to pancake him. Just put in the effort and engage him. If you're engaged with a defender, at the very least he's going to have to work around or through you. Even if a defender trucks you, he had to take the time and effort to do so. That gives the ball carrier atleast a shot to avoid him.
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08-09-2014, 07:03 PM	#23
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Who recorded the game? Verify what he claims or prove him wrong. In all fairness, Jimmy whiffed that block, the two Ingram runs previously Graham played a big part in him springing it free However the cadet run, Jimmy did look like he didn't want to block their DE and he got round Jimmy incredibly easy

08-09-2014, 07:13 PM	#24
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches I just rewatched that play, Simms swam the f*ck out of Graham, but Graham over extended as well. It was a pretty bad play by JG but I would be pretty hard pressed to say he was playing matador on that one.

08-09-2014, 07:42 PM	#25
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by saintsfan403 I just rewatched that play, Simms swam the f*ck out of Graham, but Graham over extended as well. It was a pretty bad play by JG but I would be pretty hard pressed to say he was playing matador on that one. So basically, the accusing poster was full of crap ... as usual when he repeatedly bashes Graham.

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08-10-2014, 03:21 AM	#26
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So basically, the accusing poster was full of crap ... as usual when he repeatedly bashes Graham. Really no need to start insulting people about it, Graham made some good blocks to spring Ingram on his runs but the cadet one was a terrible play on Graham's part, Simms made it look like Graham wasn't even there

08-10-2014, 09:10 AM	#27
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It is really sad that you have this hatred in you. Standing there looking for a person to block means that there was no one there to block. Get over it. You are beginning to sound foolish with this Graham bashing. hate? no where did i ever say i hated the guy. this is all bout his contract and last statements thats all. look jimmy size limits his ability to block thats all. he is not a complete TE nor will he ever be, it is physically impossible for him to be. he needs to become a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all. i want to see him perform a text book block. sorry there too few players tall enough for him to do it to. too tall jones retired jimmy size also limits his quickness out of a stance or getting out of the block. it is just the laws of physics. Once again Jimmy is not a great blocker. he is ok and could use some work. I will repeat it again: a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all. but that is not what we pay him for by any means. damn i just deleted the game. the block i believe was towards the end of the first half. the DE or LB blew right between the TE and LT. he came through clean. blown assignment? just a good play the defender? does not really matter to tell you the truth. it was funny to see him standing there looking confused. I can point out a ton of players that look that way in this game and yes i shook my head and laughed at each one. so jimmy aint alone on this one. remember the rams are a good team. so it will happen. plus by the end of the game i say the rams depth chart is way more athletic than ours is. just some bread and butter and a bit of jam his bread and butter we all know bit of Jam is his blocking I was trying to be lite heart-ed about the whole thing.
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08-10-2014, 09:41 AM	#28
Schmohams 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 551	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches I think the reason Jimmy's blocking is in question is because we throw a majority of the time when he's in, that and Gronk fan girls and trying to show us why they think he is better than Jimmy.

08-10-2014, 10:10 AM	#29
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by hagan714 hate? no where did i ever say i hated the guy. this is all bout his contract and last statements thats all. look jimmy size limits his ability to block thats all. he is not a complete TE nor will he ever be, it is physically impossible for him to be. he needs to become a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all. i want to see him perform a text book block. sorry there too few players tall enough for him to do it to. too tall jones retired jimmy size also limits his quickness out of a stance or getting out of the block. it is just the laws of physics. Once again Jimmy is not a great blocker. he is ok and could use some work. I will repeat it again: a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all. but that is not what we pay him for by any means. damn i just deleted the game. the block i believe was towards the end of the first half. the DE or LB blew right between the TE and LT. he came through clean. blown assignment? just a good play the defender? does not really matter to tell you the truth. it was funny to see him standing there looking confused. I can point out a ton of players that look that way in this game and yes i shook my head and laughed at each one. so jimmy aint alone on this one. remember the rams are a good team. so it will happen. plus by the end of the game i say the rams depth chart is way more athletic than ours is. just some bread and butter and a bit of jam his bread and butter we all know bit of Jam is his blocking I was trying to be lite heart-ed about the whole thing. So how does Graham get the blame when the LT let him go, too? It is the LT's primary job to block and you give him no grief? You pick out one play to bash Graham on.

08-10-2014, 10:26 AM	#30
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So how does Graham get the blame when the LT let him go, too? It is the LT's primary job to block and you give him no grief? You pick out one play to bash Graham on. i was not bashing the guy. like i said who blew the assignment or just a great defensive play it did not matter really. litto did the same thing when he or the guard missed a stunt. the response when they just stand there dumb founded, looking all around with their hands out looking for a block. is funny in the preseason. Jimmy is ok and at has his moments were he is good but never a great blocker. it is just a fact. he really is just now to the point were he can start really worrying about more of the other stuff. 1 year of college ball then to the pros? he is just now got the receiving part mastered. that is freaking scary. I am no way looking for Jimmy to be praised by the NFL for his blocking skills nor do i expect it. trust me there were a ton of players on the field that night doing the same thing pre season game 1 thats is funny stuff
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