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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hagan714 There were times also when he was kinda standing there looking for a person to block as the runner got tackled right behind him. fire out of the stance and lay the lumber. oh thats right ...

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Old 08-09-2014, 05:14 PM   #1
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Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches

Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
There were times also when he was kinda standing there looking for a person to block as the runner got tackled right behind him. fire out of the stance and lay the lumber. oh thats right he is to tall fire out the block. at least stand in the way and push the guy on a consistent bases then you are doing better jimmy. I do not expect pancakes from jimmy at all. just some bread and butter and a bit of jam
It is really sad that you have this hatred in you.

Standing there looking for a person to block means that there was no one there to block. Get over it. You are beginning to sound foolish with this Graham bashing.

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Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches

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It is really sad that you have this hatred in you.

Standing there looking for a person to block means that there was no one there to block. Get over it. You are beginning to sound foolish with this Graham bashing.


hate? no where did i ever say i hated the guy. this is all bout his contract and last statements thats all.

look jimmy size limits his ability to block thats all. he is not a complete TE nor will he ever be, it is physically impossible for him to be. he needs to become a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all.

i want to see him perform a text book block. sorry there too few players tall enough for him to do it to. too tall jones retired

jimmy size also limits his quickness out of a stance or getting out of the block. it is just the laws of physics.

Once again Jimmy is not a great blocker. he is ok and could use some work. I will repeat it again: a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all.

but that is not what we pay him for by any means.

damn i just deleted the game. the block i believe was towards the end of the first half. the DE or LB blew right between the TE and LT. he came through clean. blown assignment? just a good play the defender? does not really matter to tell you the truth. it was funny to see him standing there looking confused. I can point out a ton of players that look that way in this game and yes i shook my head and laughed at each one. so jimmy aint alone on this one.

remember the rams are a good team. so it will happen. plus by the end of the game i say the rams depth chart is way more athletic than ours is.

just some bread and butter and a bit of jam

his bread and butter we all know

bit of Jam is his blocking

I was trying to be lite heart-ed about the whole thing.

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hate? no where did i ever say i hated the guy. this is all bout his contract and last statements thats all.

look jimmy size limits his ability to block thats all. he is not a complete TE nor will he ever be, it is physically impossible for him to be. he needs to become a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all.

i want to see him perform a text book block. sorry there too few players tall enough for him to do it to. too tall jones retired

jimmy size also limits his quickness out of a stance or getting out of the block. it is just the laws of physics.

Once again Jimmy is not a great blocker. he is ok and could use some work. I will repeat it again: a bit more physical when setting a his basketball screen thats all.

but that is not what we pay him for by any means.

damn i just deleted the game. the block i believe was towards the end of the first half. the DE or LB blew right between the TE and LT. he came through clean. blown assignment? just a good play the defender? does not really matter to tell you the truth. it was funny to see him standing there looking confused. I can point out a ton of players that look that way in this game and yes i shook my head and laughed at each one. so jimmy aint alone on this one.

remember the rams are a good team. so it will happen. plus by the end of the game i say the rams depth chart is way more athletic than ours is.

just some bread and butter and a bit of jam

his bread and butter we all know

bit of Jam is his blocking

I was trying to be lite heart-ed about the whole thing.
So how does Graham get the blame when the LT let him go, too? It is the LT's primary job to block and you give him no grief? You pick out one play to bash Graham on.
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So how does Graham get the blame when the LT let him go, too? It is the LT's primary job to block and you give him no grief? You pick out one play to bash Graham on.
i was not bashing the guy. like i said who blew the assignment or just a great defensive play it did not matter really.

litto did the same thing when he or the guard missed a stunt.

the response when they just stand there dumb founded, looking all around with their hands out looking for a block. is funny in the preseason.

Jimmy is ok and at has his moments were he is good but never a great blocker. it is just a fact.

he really is just now to the point were he can start really worrying about more of the other stuff. 1 year of college ball then to the pros? he is just now got the receiving part mastered. that is freaking scary.

I am no way looking for Jimmy to be praised by the NFL for his blocking skills nor do i expect it.

trust me there were a ton of players on the field that night doing the same thing

pre season game 1 thats is funny stuff

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So how does Graham get the blame when the LT let him go, too? It is the LT's primary job to block and you give him no grief? You pick out one play to bash Graham on.
Well allow me to state what i saw on that play.

Jimmy engages the DE to set an edge. Jimmy gets beat badly by a swim move. Jimmy then stands flat footed and watches cadet get tackled for a loss.

Its just one bad play which means nothing.

I dont understand why you are arguing with people if you didn't watch the play.
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Well allow me to state what i saw on that play.

Jimmy engages the DE to set an edge. Jimmy gets beat badly by a swim move. Jimmy then stands flat footed and watches cadet get tackled for a loss.

Its just one bad play which means nothing.

I dont understand why you are arguing with people if you didn't watch the play.
It is the same three or four people that have dragged Graham through the mud over the past several months on this site. Reading their constant bashing of Graham has gotten quite old.
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It is the same three or four people that have dragged Graham through the mud over the past several months on this site. Reading their constant bashing of Graham has gotten quite old.
I'm one of those bashers, no rose-colored glasses here.
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I'm one of those bashers, no rose-colored glasses here.
Yes you are.
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Re: Saints' Graham looks to improve blocking as preseason opener approaches

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
It is the same three or four people that have dragged Graham through the mud over the past several months on this site. Reading their constant bashing of Graham has gotten quite old.
I'll bet if you asked those three or four people, our sticking up for Graham all the time has gotten quite old too.

There are other sites where everyone agrees. The posters all "toe the party line" so to speak. I hope B&G never becomes such a site. It's boring. I enjoy reading other people's perspectives as well as respectfully, debating different points of view.

It is important however, to remember we all deserve respect. Name calling or belittling has no place here.

(Sorry Asylum, I don't mean to come off as attacking you. This was a general statement with nobody in particular in mind)
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It is the same three or four people that have dragged Graham through the mud over the past several months on this site. Reading their constant bashing of Graham has gotten quite old.
People need to realize he made the team because of his receiving ability, not his blocking ability or overall TE skills. He doesn't need to be a great blocker, just hold his own. We have other TEs if we need good blocking. Don't let the NFL AND NFLPA fool you, we did get a receiver for the price of a tight end.
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