SFIAH's Connundrum

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-10-2004, 05:17 PM

Saintswhodi (IIRC) wrote in a thread about the 2005 draft:

We agree about the thin safety position BNB. It has to be addressed. What do you think about taking a chance on Jason Campbell in the 3rd if he is still on the board? I think he could be Brooks without the as many mistakes, of course if Haslett and crew are gone so they can't ruin him.

Today I declare SFAIH's Connundrum:

Any discussion about the 2004 New Orleans Saints always leads back to Aaron Brooks. At that point the discussion then becomes useless.

Take a look at every thread here. Somewhere Brooks is in every one of them.

Any consideration to simply agree to disagree on Brooks? The opinions here are polarized to the point that there's never going to any agreement.

Simply call off the discussion due to SFIAH's Connundrum:

Sample convo...

"Well the Saint's offsense cannot get out a game without 100 yards in penalties..."

"Well if Brooks..."

"SFIAH's Connundrum. Move on to something else."

Any takers?

SFIAH

[Edited on 10/12/2004 by SaintFanInATLHELL]

Tobias-Reiper · 12-10-2004, 05:24 PM

..maybe we should only accentuate the positives....

xrotflmao: (inside joke that only I get)

Danno · 12-10-2004, 05:32 PM

Well if Brooks had any leadership ability you wouldn\'t have to deal with these incessant conundrums.

shadowdrinker_x · 12-10-2004, 06:46 PM

I think we get on this subject everytime..because we all know what this kid is capable of doing..and just how well he really can play..we\'ve seen it....he could have been great..and he just fails..plain and simple..I feel bad for the guy..i wanted him to be great..maybe we all wanted it more than he did?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-11-2004, 08:13 AM

This thread already show two perfect examples of the Connundrum:

Well if Brooks had any leadership ability you wouldn\'t have to deal with these incessant conundrums.

and

If AB doesn\'t have time to throw and Deuce is getting popped in the backfeild we\'ve got a line problem, more specifically a blocking problem. But their eneptness doesn\'t stop there. Its a mental thing too. You don\'t even have a fighting chance when a team commits unforced errors.

Has anyone really been swayed one way or the other by the discussion about Brooks?

I realize that the polarization is the reason that the topic keeps coming up. No one really talks about Haslett staying, because we all agree that he needs to go.

But there\'s no concensus on Brooks. No matter which side of the fence you stand, there is a really strong opinion about him.

SFIAH

WhoDat · 12-11-2004, 03:09 PM

If AB hadn\'t thrown all those backwards and underhanded passes you wouldn\'t need a thread like this! LOL

Cassady37 · 12-11-2004, 03:27 PM

Aaron Brooks = Connundrum

Connundrum = Aaron Brooks

JKool · 12-11-2004, 03:52 PM

SFIAH,

I guess, I don\'t share your frustration with this. The thread to which you are referring has had its moments of being quite pedestrian, but, by and large, there has been much productive communication (and even rare agreements) - usually on issues surrounding Brooks, though not Brooks himself.

In fact, I thought you and I held our own pretty well against Whodi, BMG, WhoDat and many other noteables. You really don\'t feel like good things were said there?

As far as the connundrum goes, I agree that it is sometimes a little frustrating that you can\'t say very much before someone derails the conversation with something about Brooks. However, I don\'t think it is too hard to carry on a conversation about something by either (1) ignoring that particular point or (2) by coming back to it after a couple of posts.

Besides, where else but posts like ones about Brooks can you get someone to use the word \"castigate\". Damn fine word.

Furthermore, since Football is a team sport, there is no part of the team that isn\'t a little responsible for whatever happened on Sunday. Thus, I argue that it makes sense that players who played on Sunday will be mentioned no matter what the original point was about - since they are interrelated.

And, the Brooks thing is nowhere near as irritating as the guys who follow each other around simply because they think it is fun to pick on one guy or another just because he said something stupid a long time ago (or sometimes not that long ago).

By the way, Farve is a QB and so is Brooks.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-11-2004, 06:30 PM

SFIAH,

I guess, I don\'t share your frustration with this. The thread to which you are referring has had its moments of being quite pedestrian, but, by and large, there has been much productive communication (and even rare agreements) - usually on issues surrounding Brooks, though not Brooks himself.

JK, I think you missed my point. The Connundrum is that every discussion about the Saints, no matter what it initially starts with, eventually devolves into the merits of Brooks.

We could start a thread talking about how cute the SaintSations look, and someone will throw in:

But if Brooks had leadership skills, the women would look even better!

In fact, I thought you and I held our own pretty well against Whodi, BMG, WhoDat and many other noteables. You really don\'t feel like good things were said there?

No problem with the thread that never ends. I\'m frustrated with every thread everywhere on the forum tacking in that direction.

As far as the connundrum goes, I agree that it is sometimes a little frustrating that you can\'t say very much before someone derails the conversation with something about Brooks. However, I don\'t think it is too hard to carry on a conversation about something by either (1) ignoring that particular point or (2) by coming back to it after a couple of posts.

Besides, where else but posts like ones about Brooks can you get someone to use the word \"castigate\". Damn fine word.

Fine indeed! Also getting carp into the convo!

Furthermore, since Football is a team sport, there is no part of the team that isn\'t a little responsible for whatever happened on Sunday. Thus, I argue that it makes sense that players who played on Sunday will be mentioned no matter what the original point was about - since they are interrelated.

And, the Brooks thing is nowhere near as irritating as the guys who follow each other around simply because they think it is fun to pick on one guy or another just because he said something stupid a long time ago (or sometimes not that long ago).

Methinks I won\'t touch that one with the proverbial 10 foot pole...[/quote:a2990761c6]

By the way, Farve is a QB and so is Brooks.

Are you sure? The way I heard it told Farve is a QB and Brooks is an smiling idiot.

SFIAH

WhoDat · 12-11-2004, 07:58 PM

The way I heard it told Farve is a QB and Brooks is an smiling idiot.

That\'s about right, yeah...

12-10-2004, 05:17 PM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	SFIAH's Connundrum Saintswhodi (IIRC) wrote in a thread about the 2005 draft: We agree about the thin safety position BNB. It has to be addressed. What do you think about taking a chance on Jason Campbell in the 3rd if he is still on the board? I think he could be Brooks without the as many mistakes, of course if Haslett and crew are gone so they can't ruin him. Today I declare SFAIH's Connundrum: Any discussion about the 2004 New Orleans Saints always leads back to Aaron Brooks. At that point the discussion then becomes useless. Take a look at every thread here. Somewhere Brooks is in every one of them. Any consideration to simply agree to disagree on Brooks? The opinions here are polarized to the point that there's never going to any agreement. Simply call off the discussion due to SFIAH's Connundrum: Sample convo... "Well the Saint's offsense cannot get out a game without 100 yards in penalties..." "Well if Brooks..." "SFIAH's Connundrum. Move on to something else." Any takers? SFIAH [Edited on 10/12/2004 by SaintFanInATLHELL]

12-10-2004, 05:24 PM	#2
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	SFIAH's Connundrum ..maybe we should only accentuate the positives.... xrotflmao: (inside joke that only I get)

12-10-2004, 05:32 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	SFIAH's Connundrum Well if Brooks had any leadership ability you wouldn\'t have to deal with these incessant conundrums.

12-10-2004, 06:46 PM	#4
shadowdrinker_x Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 218	SFIAH's Connundrum I think we get on this subject everytime..because we all know what this kid is capable of doing..and just how well he really can play..we\'ve seen it....he could have been great..and he just fails..plain and simple..I feel bad for the guy..i wanted him to be great..maybe we all wanted it more than he did?

12-11-2004, 08:13 AM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	SFIAH's Connundrum This thread already show two perfect examples of the Connundrum: Well if Brooks had any leadership ability you wouldn\'t have to deal with these incessant conundrums. and If AB doesn\'t have time to throw and Deuce is getting popped in the backfeild we\'ve got a line problem, more specifically a blocking problem. But their eneptness doesn\'t stop there. Its a mental thing too. You don\'t even have a fighting chance when a team commits unforced errors. Has anyone really been swayed one way or the other by the discussion about Brooks? I realize that the polarization is the reason that the topic keeps coming up. No one really talks about Haslett staying, because we all agree that he needs to go. But there\'s no concensus on Brooks. No matter which side of the fence you stand, there is a really strong opinion about him. SFIAH

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12-11-2004, 03:09 PM	#6
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12-11-2004, 03:52 PM	#8
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	SFIAH's Connundrum SFIAH, I guess, I don\'t share your frustration with this. The thread to which you are referring has had its moments of being quite pedestrian, but, by and large, there has been much productive communication (and even rare agreements) - usually on issues surrounding Brooks, though not Brooks himself. In fact, I thought you and I held our own pretty well against Whodi, BMG, WhoDat and many other noteables. You really don\'t feel like good things were said there? As far as the connundrum goes, I agree that it is sometimes a little frustrating that you can\'t say very much before someone derails the conversation with something about Brooks. However, I don\'t think it is too hard to carry on a conversation about something by either (1) ignoring that particular point or (2) by coming back to it after a couple of posts. Besides, where else but posts like ones about Brooks can you get someone to use the word \"castigate\". Damn fine word. Furthermore, since Football is a team sport, there is no part of the team that isn\'t a little responsible for whatever happened on Sunday. Thus, I argue that it makes sense that players who played on Sunday will be mentioned no matter what the original point was about - since they are interrelated. And, the Brooks thing is nowhere near as irritating as the guys who follow each other around simply because they think it is fun to pick on one guy or another just because he said something stupid a long time ago (or sometimes not that long ago). By the way, Farve is a QB and so is Brooks.
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12-11-2004, 06:30 PM	#9
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	SFIAH's Connundrum SFIAH, I guess, I don\'t share your frustration with this. The thread to which you are referring has had its moments of being quite pedestrian, but, by and large, there has been much productive communication (and even rare agreements) - usually on issues surrounding Brooks, though not Brooks himself. JK, I think you missed my point. The Connundrum is that every discussion about the Saints, no matter what it initially starts with, eventually devolves into the merits of Brooks. We could start a thread talking about how cute the SaintSations look, and someone will throw in: But if Brooks had leadership skills, the women would look even better! In fact, I thought you and I held our own pretty well against Whodi, BMG, WhoDat and many other noteables. You really don\'t feel like good things were said there? No problem with the thread that never ends. I\'m frustrated with every thread everywhere on the forum tacking in that direction. As far as the connundrum goes, I agree that it is sometimes a little frustrating that you can\'t say very much before someone derails the conversation with something about Brooks. However, I don\'t think it is too hard to carry on a conversation about something by either (1) ignoring that particular point or (2) by coming back to it after a couple of posts. Besides, where else but posts like ones about Brooks can you get someone to use the word \"castigate\". Damn fine word. Fine indeed! Also getting carp into the convo! Furthermore, since Football is a team sport, there is no part of the team that isn\'t a little responsible for whatever happened on Sunday. Thus, I argue that it makes sense that players who played on Sunday will be mentioned no matter what the original point was about - since they are interrelated. And, the Brooks thing is nowhere near as irritating as the guys who follow each other around simply because they think it is fun to pick on one guy or another just because he said something stupid a long time ago (or sometimes not that long ago). Methinks I won\'t touch that one with the proverbial 10 foot pole...[/quote:a2990761c6] By the way, Farve is a QB and so is Brooks. Are you sure? The way I heard it told Farve is a QB and Brooks is an smiling idiot. SFIAH
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12-11-2004, 07:58 PM	#10
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	SFIAH's Connundrum The way I heard it told Farve is a QB and Brooks is an smiling idiot. That\'s about right, yeah...
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