Jean Baptiste

The Dude · 08-19-2014, 12:23 AM

One thing that bothers me about him is that I hear reports that he is kind of mentally weak. He gets discouraged and fed up easily when things don't go his way. If he gets discouraged every time he gets burned he won't last long.

At some point he is going to need to step up. If Lewis goes down for any length of time there will be a huge drop off.

|Mitch| · 08-19-2014, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

One thing that bothers me about him is that I hear reports that he is kind of mentally weak. He gets discouraged and fed up easily when things don't go his way. If he gets discouraged every time he gets burned he won't last long.

At some point he is going to need to step up. If Lewis goes down for any length of time there will be a huge drop off.

He's not mentally weak; he's only had 2 years at corner was a WR before that... And it was known when they drafted him, that he was a project with terrific upside, he was never supposed to start this season.

But in the two games he's played he's had pretty decent coverage and just wait until we start pressing with him

jeanpierre · 08-19-2014, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I agree. At the same time, he's a rookie and it's his second preseason game. We have plenty of depth. At best, he's our dime back. All we really should be expecting of him this season is good play on special teams. Anything extra would be just gravy.

Realistically, you're spot on...but we shouldn't have spent a second round pick on a project...reason I didn't want to see us take him there...

Seer1 · 08-19-2014, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

SJB is not, and never was supposed to be a starter in 2014. Those that think that just don't get the whole draft process.

You are absolutely correct Danno. I really do not get the draft process. I still see a second rounder as what should be a potential first year contributor.

Please make sure you're not eating or drinking before reading the next sentence.

I would've rather seen us pick one of the two high potential place kickers available this year than a project. Don't say I didn't warn you...

Danno · 08-19-2014, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

You are absolutely correct Danno. I really do not get the draft process. I still see a second rounder as what should be a potential first year contributor.

Please make sure you're not eating or drinking before reading the next sentence.

I would've rather seen us pick one of the two high potential place kickers available this year than a project. Don't say I didn't warn you...

Why would I not want to draft a kicker? I would have no problem drafting a kicker.

TheOak · 08-19-2014, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

One thing that bothers me about him is that I hear reports that he is kind of mentally weak. He gets discouraged and fed up easily when things don't go his way. If he gets discouraged every time he gets burned he won't last long.

At some point he is going to need to step up. If Lewis goes down for any length of time there will be a huge drop off.

Ever watch Jay Cutler play? Ingram after a run that doesn't go as well as he thought it should have? Romo after his 3rd interception in a game?

Frustration happens, even Drew shows moments of it from time to time. The difference is what happens right after; if he gets up and goes at it again its not a big deal. If he Cam Newtons off to the side line and hangs his boudin for the world to see like a person that has quit on his team, then I see that as a problem.

ikecomp · 08-19-2014, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Ever watch Jay Cutler play? Ingram after a run that doesn't go as well as he thought it should have? Romo after his 3rd interception in a game?

Frustration happens, even Drew shows moments of it from time to time. The difference is what happens right after; if he gets up and goes at it again its not a big deal. If he Cam Newtons off to the side line and hangs his boudin for the world to see like a person that has quit on his team, then I see that as a problem.

I'm with you on 99% of that except Jay Cutler. Dude is probably the most mediocre 100 million dollar qb in the league. Amazing arm but everything else is ok. I looked at his stats one day and couldn't believe how low some of his numbers were. At any rate, I just hope Baptiste doesn't turn out like Cutler where we are hoping that in year 9 things will click and he realizes his potential.

dizzle88 · 08-19-2014, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Ever watch Jay Cutler play? Ingram after a run that doesn't go as well as he thought it should have? Romo after his 3rd interception in a game?

Frustration happens, even Drew shows moments of it from time to time. The difference is what happens right after; if he gets up and goes at it again its not a big deal. If he Cam Newtons off to the side line and hangs his boudin for the world to see like a person that has quit on his team, then I see that as a problem.

You can visibly see an interception p1$$ drew Brees off, the difference is he doesn't slouch on the sideline because of it, he comes straight back out and puts that frustration into his game, slings the ball around makes defenders look silly at the same time

papz · 08-19-2014, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Realistically, you're spot on...but we shouldn't have spent a second round pick on a project...reason I didn't want to see us take him there...

After all these years jp, I knew it was only a matter of time before you came in the thread and dropped this line. Two things you can always count in...

Jp on early round draft picks contributing immediately and Euphoria calling power rankings gay.

Seer1 · 08-19-2014, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Why would I not want to draft a kicker? I would have no problem drafting a kicker.

Sorry Danno. I thought I remembered you being a bit less than excited about picking a kicker a couple of years back.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Jean Baptiste Originally Posted by The Dude One thing that bothers me about him is that I hear reports that he is kind of mentally weak. He gets discouraged and fed up easily when things don't go his way. If he gets discouraged every time he gets burned he won't last long. At some point he is going to need to step up. If Lewis goes down for any length of time there will be a huge drop off. He's not mentally weak; he's only had 2 years at corner was a WR before that... And it was known when they drafted him, that he was a project with terrific upside, he was never supposed to start this season. But in the two games he's played he's had pretty decent coverage and just wait until we start pressing with him

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jean Baptiste Originally Posted by papz I agree. At the same time, he's a rookie and it's his second preseason game. We have plenty of depth. At best, he's our dime back. All we really should be expecting of him this season is good play on special teams. Anything extra would be just gravy. Realistically, you're spot on...but we shouldn't have spent a second round pick on a project...reason I didn't want to see us take him there... MarchingOn likes this.
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08-19-2014, 08:34 AM	#44
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Jean Baptiste Originally Posted by Danno SJB is not, and never was supposed to be a starter in 2014. Those that think that just don't get the whole draft process. You are absolutely correct Danno. I really do not get the draft process. I still see a second rounder as what should be a potential first year contributor. Please make sure you're not eating or drinking before reading the next sentence. I would've rather seen us pick one of the two high potential place kickers available this year than a project. Don't say I didn't warn you...

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Jean Baptiste Originally Posted by Seer1 You are absolutely correct Danno. I really do not get the draft process. I still see a second rounder as what should be a potential first year contributor. Please make sure you're not eating or drinking before reading the next sentence. I would've rather seen us pick one of the two high potential place kickers available this year than a project. Don't say I didn't warn you... Why would I not want to draft a kicker? I would have no problem drafting a kicker.

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08-19-2014, 09:16 AM	#46
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Jean Baptiste Originally Posted by The Dude One thing that bothers me about him is that I hear reports that he is kind of mentally weak. He gets discouraged and fed up easily when things don't go his way. If he gets discouraged every time he gets burned he won't last long. At some point he is going to need to step up. If Lewis goes down for any length of time there will be a huge drop off. Ever watch Jay Cutler play? Ingram after a run that doesn't go as well as he thought it should have? Romo after his 3rd interception in a game? Frustration happens, even Drew shows moments of it from time to time. The difference is what happens right after; if he gets up and goes at it again its not a big deal. If he Cam Newtons off to the side line and hangs his boudin for the world to see like a person that has quit on his team, then I see that as a problem. Danno and saintsfan403 like this.

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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Jean Baptiste Originally Posted by TheOak Ever watch Jay Cutler play? Ingram after a run that doesn't go as well as he thought it should have? Romo after his 3rd interception in a game? Frustration happens, even Drew shows moments of it from time to time. The difference is what happens right after; if he gets up and goes at it again its not a big deal. If he Cam Newtons off to the side line and hangs his boudin for the world to see like a person that has quit on his team, then I see that as a problem. I'm with you on 99% of that except Jay Cutler. Dude is probably the most mediocre 100 million dollar qb in the league. Amazing arm but everything else is ok. I looked at his stats one day and couldn't believe how low some of his numbers were. At any rate, I just hope Baptiste doesn't turn out like Cutler where we are hoping that in year 9 things will click and he realizes his potential.
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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Jean Baptiste Originally Posted by TheOak Ever watch Jay Cutler play? Ingram after a run that doesn't go as well as he thought it should have? Romo after his 3rd interception in a game? Frustration happens, even Drew shows moments of it from time to time. The difference is what happens right after; if he gets up and goes at it again its not a big deal. If he Cam Newtons off to the side line and hangs his boudin for the world to see like a person that has quit on his team, then I see that as a problem. You can visibly see an interception p1$$ drew Brees off, the difference is he doesn't slouch on the sideline because of it, he comes straight back out and puts that frustration into his game, slings the ball around makes defenders look silly at the same time

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Jean Baptiste Originally Posted by jeanpierre Realistically, you're spot on...but we shouldn't have spent a second round pick on a project...reason I didn't want to see us take him there... After all these years jp, I knew it was only a matter of time before you came in the thread and dropped this line. Two things you can always count in... Jp on early round draft picks contributing immediately and Euphoria calling power rankings gay. hagan714 and jeanpierre like this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Jean Baptiste Originally Posted by Danno Why would I not want to draft a kicker? I would have no problem drafting a kicker. Sorry Danno. I thought I remembered you being a bit less than excited about picking a kicker a couple of years back.

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