New Orleans Saints sit at square one with cornerback race between Champ Bailey, Patrick Robinson

08-22-2014, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Hopefully Jean Batiste can develop quickly.

Batiste is a really really raw prospect that needs a year or two for development. If he is needed this season the backfield is in real trouble IMO.

Originally Posted by jjasso007

The fact that Bailey is being considered as the #2 CB on our team is a little scary. He's definitely declined in his ability to be the lockdown CB he used to be, and the fact that they are saying Robinson is at about his exact level and that White isn't even up to that level should have us all a little worried. Hopefully Robinson is healthy and steps up into a legit #2 opposite Lewis. If not, it may be time to find a legit #2 in a draft, provided SJB doesn't become that man next season

I agree 100%, Although I hold out hope for both Bailey and Robinson, both have been injury prone and neither have looked like a true #2 in recent seasons. White is still young but has passed neither. The last few years drafting corners has been horrible. It's time payton turns that over 100% to Rob. We've burned too many high picks on DB's only to scramble to find quality starters during free agency.

hagan714 · 08-23-2014, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

my concern is that we wait too long on Robinson and Bailey, and those 2 hold roster spots that could go to a developing player such as Sweeting or SJB.

jjas is right that with the door wide open, it'd too bad White hasn't stepped up.
Big game for all 3 tomorrow

l was so happy we got Sweeting last year and knew he would make the club. but i am not going to kid myself here. i in no way see him becoming the CB you want starting outside. i could be wrong.

Sweeting is a solid back up that is very smart and will keep the play in front of him as not to give up the big plays. fourth or fifth guy all day long for years to come at best.

SJB oh god he needs work but if he every gets it all together he maybe the guy out there. i think a great nickle and dime guy shutting down the TE and tall slower wide outs is were he will settle in at for the next 2 years. then who knows. upside baby upside. how high does that ceiling go?

bring on the 2015 nfl draft - #1 priority will be either ILB or CB. as things look now i say CB.

Cruize · 08-23-2014, 12:03 PM

They both might not even be on the opening day roster. I don't like the idea of both not playing at all in the preseason and expecting them to be ready when the games count. My guess is White will lineup opposite Lewis opening day. Vaccaro will drop down in sub packages with Bush and Sunseri seeing alot of playing time.

brees84 · 08-23-2014, 12:10 PM

White scares me. I'd rather see Robinson opposite Lewis.

ScottF · 08-23-2014, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

They both might not even be on the opening day roster. I don't like the idea of both not playing at all in the preseason and expecting them to be ready when the games count. My guess is White will lineup opposite Lewis opening day. Vaccaro will drop down in sub packages with Bush and Sunseri seeing alot of playing time.

both are supposed to play tonight

billyt81 · 08-24-2014, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

They both might not even be on the opening day roster. I don't like the idea of both not playing at all in the preseason and expecting them to be ready when the games count. My guess is White will lineup opposite Lewis opening day. Vaccaro will drop down in sub packages with Bush and Sunseri seeing alot of playing time.

Okay by both you actually mean Bailey and PRob? So you think the top 2 guys chasing the starting CB position opposite Lewis might both get CUT? Now that'd be a story. And Joe Morgan might get moved to corner now that he's healthy. Pros-Good height and speed/Cons-Serious concerns about his run support.

brees84 · 08-26-2014, 03:26 PM

It's P Rob opposite Lewis. I will be surprised if Robinson doesn't start.

Danno · 08-26-2014, 03:30 PM

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Jack Vegas · 08-26-2014, 03:46 PM

Robinson is a notch below Keenan Lewis but he will be a perfect #2 if he can stay healthy. Love the way he played against the Colts.

I am starting to think Champ doesn't make the team. Same foot as last year? Ooof.

saintsfan1976 · 08-27-2014, 08:34 AM

Champ's contract ($500k guaranteed over two years) may be what saves him from cuts but i don't know man, he's been just as injured as Butler....

08-22-2014, 08:18 PM	#11
Threaded by TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by SmashMouth Hopefully Jean Batiste can develop quickly. Batiste is a really really raw prospect that needs a year or two for development. If he is needed this season the backfield is in real trouble IMO. Originally Posted by jjasso007 The fact that Bailey is being considered as the #2 CB on our team is a little scary. He's definitely declined in his ability to be the lockdown CB he used to be, and the fact that they are saying Robinson is at about his exact level and that White isn't even up to that level should have us all a little worried. Hopefully Robinson is healthy and steps up into a legit #2 opposite Lewis. If not, it may be time to find a legit #2 in a draft, provided SJB doesn't become that man next season I agree 100%, Although I hold out hope for both Bailey and Robinson, both have been injury prone and neither have looked like a true #2 in recent seasons. White is still young but has passed neither. The last few years drafting corners has been horrible. It's time payton turns that over 100% to Rob. We've burned too many high picks on DB's only to scramble to find quality starters during free agency.
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08-23-2014, 11:22 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints sit at square one with cornerback race between Champ Bailey, Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by ScottF my concern is that we wait too long on Robinson and Bailey, and those 2 hold roster spots that could go to a developing player such as Sweeting or SJB. jjas is right that with the door wide open, it'd too bad White hasn't stepped up. Big game for all 3 tomorrow l was so happy we got Sweeting last year and knew he would make the club. but i am not going to kid myself here. i in no way see him becoming the CB you want starting outside. i could be wrong. Sweeting is a solid back up that is very smart and will keep the play in front of him as not to give up the big plays. fourth or fifth guy all day long for years to come at best. SJB oh god he needs work but if he every gets it all together he maybe the guy out there. i think a great nickle and dime guy shutting down the TE and tall slower wide outs is were he will settle in at for the next 2 years. then who knows. upside baby upside. how high does that ceiling go? bring on the 2015 nfl draft - #1 priority will be either ILB or CB. as things look now i say CB.
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08-23-2014, 12:03 PM	#13
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08-23-2014, 12:10 PM	#14
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08-23-2014, 04:46 PM	#15
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: New Orleans Saints sit at square one with cornerback race between Champ Bailey, Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by Cruize They both might not even be on the opening day roster. I don't like the idea of both not playing at all in the preseason and expecting them to be ready when the games count. My guess is White will lineup opposite Lewis opening day. Vaccaro will drop down in sub packages with Bush and Sunseri seeing alot of playing time. both are supposed to play tonight

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08-24-2014, 01:13 AM	#16
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: New Orleans Saints sit at square one with cornerback race between Champ Bailey, Patrick Robinson Originally Posted by Cruize They both might not even be on the opening day roster. I don't like the idea of both not playing at all in the preseason and expecting them to be ready when the games count. My guess is White will lineup opposite Lewis opening day. Vaccaro will drop down in sub packages with Bush and Sunseri seeing alot of playing time. Okay by both you actually mean Bailey and PRob? So you think the top 2 guys chasing the starting CB position opposite Lewis might both get CUT? Now that'd be a story. And Joe Morgan might get moved to corner now that he's healthy. Pros-Good height and speed/Cons-Serious concerns about his run support.

08-26-2014, 03:26 PM	#17
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: New Orleans Saints sit at square one with cornerback race between Champ Bailey, Patrick Robinson Twitter It's P Rob opposite Lewis. I will be surprised if Robinson doesn't start.
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