RB by committee or RB by play?

the-commish · 08-25-2014, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Saints rushed for 160 yards on 4.6 YPC on Saturday.

What ever they did, I hope they do it again and do it a lot.

How much of that yardage was on QB scrambles? I think that yardage would have to be subtracted as it is abnormal (not from RBs).

Audiotom · 08-25-2014, 05:49 PM

until Ingram learns how to catch and run a screen play he makes the offense predictable

Pierre and Khiry on the screen plays
and whatever we come up with for Cooks

Danno · 08-25-2014, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

until Ingram learns how to catch and run a screen play he makes the offense predictable

Pierre and Khiry on the screen plays
and whatever we come up with for Cooks

He already knows how to run a screen, at least as well as Khiry Robinson does.

Comparing any NFL player's screen talents to Pierre Thomas is useless. He's the best in the entire NFL.

foreverfan · 08-25-2014, 07:44 PM

Wait... You want us to tell Payton how to run the offense?

Danno · 08-25-2014, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Wait... You want us to tell Payton how to run the offense?

What?

Utah_Saint · 08-25-2014, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by the-commish

How much of that yardage was on QB scrambles? I think that yardage would have to be subtracted as it is abnormal (not from RBs).

43 yards by the QBs. That is a lot. But that's still 117 from the RBs which is very good.

80 yards were gained by Ingram, Robinson and PT. Just my opinion but I think they would've gained a lot more if they'd stayed in for 4 quarters behind the starting Oline. Cadet also had 31 more yards. I think one of the other backs would've gotten those yards in a regular season game. (assuming Cadet wasn't activated)

By comparison, we've averaged...
92.1 yards last season
98.6 in 2012
132.9 in 2011
94.9 in 2010
131.6 in 2009
99.6 in 2008
91.6 in 2007
110.1 in 2006

saintfan · 08-25-2014, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

What?

HUH?

Jack Vegas · 08-26-2014, 12:10 AM

If we get 117 rushing yards a game this year, we'll be in really nice shape.

MatthewT · 08-26-2014, 07:42 AM

I am a big believer in a primary back, and then roll backs. Part of the issue with the Saints is they currently do not have a proven primary back. Lets be honest, Deuce has never been replaced, he could do it all, with Reggie Bush being that change of pace and home run guy. Ingram was drafted with the intention of being that primary back, but for whatever reason that hasn't panned out, so thus we see the committee.

ikecomp · 08-26-2014, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

until Ingram learns how to catch and run a screen play he makes the offense predictable

Pierre and Khiry on the screen plays
and whatever we come up with for Cooks

While I'm the first to admit I've never been an ingram fan, I do believe he has decent hands. He actually caught a lot of passes at bama when he was given a chance. If he's going to be in the game he needs to be somewhat of a threat to catch. At the very least, he's as capable as anyone at catching a pass out in the flat or catching a short screen pass.

08-25-2014, 04:05 PM	#11
the-commish Longtime WhoDat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 529	Re: RB by committee or RB by play? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Saints rushed for 160 yards on 4.6 YPC on Saturday. What ever they did, I hope they do it again and do it a lot. How much of that yardage was on QB scrambles? I think that yardage would have to be subtracted as it is abnormal (not from RBs). Utah_Saint likes this.

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Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: RB by committee or RB by play? until Ingram learns how to catch and run a screen play he makes the offense predictable Pierre and Khiry on the screen plays and whatever we come up with for Cooks

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: RB by committee or RB by play? Originally Posted by Audiotom until Ingram learns how to catch and run a screen play he makes the offense predictable Pierre and Khiry on the screen plays and whatever we come up with for Cooks He already knows how to run a screen, at least as well as Khiry Robinson does. Comparing any NFL player's screen talents to Pierre Thomas is useless. He's the best in the entire NFL. saintfan, SaintFanInATLHELL, Barry from MS and 3 others like this.

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: RB by committee or RB by play? Wait... You want us to tell Payton how to run the offense? CoreyO likes this.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: RB by committee or RB by play? Originally Posted by the-commish How much of that yardage was on QB scrambles? I think that yardage would have to be subtracted as it is abnormal (not from RBs). 43 yards by the QBs. That is a lot. But that's still 117 from the RBs which is very good. 80 yards were gained by Ingram, Robinson and PT. Just my opinion but I think they would've gained a lot more if they'd stayed in for 4 quarters behind the starting Oline. Cadet also had 31 more yards. I think one of the other backs would've gotten those yards in a regular season game. (assuming Cadet wasn't activated) By comparison, we've averaged... 92.1 yards last season 98.6 in 2012 132.9 in 2011 94.9 in 2010 131.6 in 2009 99.6 in 2008 91.6 in 2007 110.1 in 2006

08-25-2014, 08:14 PM	#17
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: RB by committee or RB by play? Originally Posted by Danno What? HUH?

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: RB by committee or RB by play? I am a big believer in a primary back, and then roll backs. Part of the issue with the Saints is they currently do not have a proven primary back. Lets be honest, Deuce has never been replaced, he could do it all, with Reggie Bush being that change of pace and home run guy. Ingram was drafted with the intention of being that primary back, but for whatever reason that hasn't panned out, so thus we see the committee.

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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: RB by committee or RB by play? Originally Posted by Audiotom until Ingram learns how to catch and run a screen play he makes the offense predictable Pierre and Khiry on the screen plays and whatever we come up with for Cooks While I'm the first to admit I've never been an ingram fan, I do believe he has decent hands. He actually caught a lot of passes at bama when he was given a chance. If he's going to be in the game he needs to be somewhat of a threat to catch. At the very least, he's as capable as anyone at catching a pass out in the flat or catching a short screen pass.
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