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saintz08 · 01-06-2003, 11:12 AM

I think Haslett has some way of protecting the golden boy on the team , I think we saw it first with Ricky Williams . Duece got a couple shots 2 years ago and shortly after he breaks the one open for the 60 yard touchdown , Haslett puts him in the closet and he disappears .Til Ricky is traded the following year .

I do not think Haslett will allow competition for Brooks , especially after he back him to get the big contract .

WhoDat · 01-06-2003, 04:49 PM

Part of the problem is us. You know how sometimes when people question you when you think you\'re right it simply makes your opinion stronger. I think Haslett probably starting fighting for Brooks when it may have been premature (at least from a coaching standpoint). As a result, he became a complete and utter Brooks backer on principle, not substance. Anyway, I think he was blinded by his own stubbornness. Watch the Delhomme situation closely. If Delhomme goes, which I fear greatly, then Haslett is behind Aaron completely, and in my opinion, to the detriment and eventual demise of his career in New Orleans. If Jake gets a contract renewal though, you may just see some competition next year in camp.

saintz08 · 01-06-2003, 08:05 PM

I think if that were the case we would not see any other problems with the team , a struggling Qb and the fans are on him is one thing and Haslett cannot say he has never heard boo birds before in his career , but look at all the other problems and players wanting out .

Turley is all over Brooks and management and he wants out .

Fontenot has optioned out of his contract .

Clemmons has optioned out . No great loss there

Rumor has Knight not wanting back at any price .

It seems like anyone that can get away is looking to get far away

[Edited on 7/1/2003 by saintz08]

saintz08 · 01-07-2003, 10:27 AM

Nice little write up on Jake from PFW :

Supersleeper: Jake Delhomme, Saints (62) ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â Could be a starting quarterback this time next year in Chicago, Kansas City, Arizona or Carolina. Has proven to be a capable backup to Aaron Brooks and has even helped Brooks in his development, which most backup quarterbacks with little experience are not capable of doing. All Delhomme needs is a chance next year, and he likely will get it as one of the top free-agent quarterbacks set to hit the market. His leadership and intelligence can carry a team a long way.

saintz08 · 01-07-2003, 10:37 AM

Offensive breakdown

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...ffstcht05.html

For you Gator .

Have you seen ?

http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?ID=1158494

Things are different here . No kiddin Haz !

[Edited on 7/1/2003 by saintz08]

WhoDat · 01-07-2003, 11:01 AM

God I hope we can convince Delhomme to stay. Pay him Loomis, pay him. He is more likely to be your franchise QB than Brooks!

WhoDat · 01-08-2003, 11:55 AM

I\'m just saying I want Jake on the squad. If he goes, the team truly does live and die with Brooks. At least if Jake is here we can hope. Plus, if Brooks ever does get hurt (that is if he gets hurt enough so that he and the coaches can\'t lie about it and down play it) then Jake will finally come in and prove himself.

saintfan · 01-08-2003, 12:26 PM

You people watch too many Oliver Stone movies...jeesh.

docoperator · 01-08-2003, 03:23 PM

Jake should have been given a chance! Hasslett let pride get in the way of trying to be competive. If thats the case, he\'s not as good a coach as I thought!

saintz08 · 01-08-2003, 04:43 PM

The Panthers game was about arrogance .

Hasletts head coaching is pure and simply about arrogance . He inspires his team to defeat what some would call a better opponent and rolls over assuming he could not lose to a weaker opponent .

In the Panthers game it was his will be done over what the fans wanted . As long as Haslett is head coach it will be done his way or the highway . It could all come down to one thought : Haslett was willing to let all playoff chances slip by to prove he was the one calling the shots not the fans .

1. Haslett has publically attacked the fans of the New Orleans Saints .

2. Haslett brought reporters into the facility to review film and prove the fans were wrong .

Players want out because Haslett is not about winning , he is about proving he is the head coach ......

The Carolina Panthers vs. New Orleans Saints game was actually :
Haslett vs. The Fans .

01-06-2003, 11:12 AM	#11
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Sick I think Haslett has some way of protecting the golden boy on the team , I think we saw it first with Ricky Williams . Duece got a couple shots 2 years ago and shortly after he breaks the one open for the 60 yard touchdown , Haslett puts him in the closet and he disappears .Til Ricky is traded the following year . I do not think Haslett will allow competition for Brooks , especially after he back him to get the big contract .
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01-06-2003, 04:49 PM	#12
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Sick Part of the problem is us. You know how sometimes when people question you when you think you\'re right it simply makes your opinion stronger. I think Haslett probably starting fighting for Brooks when it may have been premature (at least from a coaching standpoint). As a result, he became a complete and utter Brooks backer on principle, not substance. Anyway, I think he was blinded by his own stubbornness. Watch the Delhomme situation closely. If Delhomme goes, which I fear greatly, then Haslett is behind Aaron completely, and in my opinion, to the detriment and eventual demise of his career in New Orleans. If Jake gets a contract renewal though, you may just see some competition next year in camp.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

01-06-2003, 08:05 PM	#13
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Sick I think if that were the case we would not see any other problems with the team , a struggling Qb and the fans are on him is one thing and Haslett cannot say he has never heard boo birds before in his career , but look at all the other problems and players wanting out . Turley is all over Brooks and management and he wants out . Fontenot has optioned out of his contract . Clemmons has optioned out . No great loss there Rumor has Knight not wanting back at any price . It seems like anyone that can get away is looking to get far away [Edited on 7/1/2003 by saintz08]
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

01-07-2003, 10:27 AM	#14
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Sick Nice little write up on Jake from PFW : Supersleeper: Jake Delhomme, Saints (62) ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â Could be a starting quarterback this time next year in Chicago, Kansas City, Arizona or Carolina. Has proven to be a capable backup to Aaron Brooks and has even helped Brooks in his development, which most backup quarterbacks with little experience are not capable of doing. All Delhomme needs is a chance next year, and he likely will get it as one of the top free-agent quarterbacks set to hit the market. His leadership and intelligence can carry a team a long way.
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01-07-2003, 10:37 AM	#15
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Sick Offensive breakdown http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...ffstcht05.html For you Gator . Have you seen ? http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?ID=1158494 Things are different here . No kiddin Haz ! [Edited on 7/1/2003 by saintz08]
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01-07-2003, 11:01 AM	#16
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Sick God I hope we can convince Delhomme to stay. Pay him Loomis, pay him. He is more likely to be your franchise QB than Brooks!
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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Sick I\'m just saying I want Jake on the squad. If he goes, the team truly does live and die with Brooks. At least if Jake is here we can hope. Plus, if Brooks ever does get hurt (that is if he gets hurt enough so that he and the coaches can\'t lie about it and down play it) then Jake will finally come in and prove himself.
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docoperator Rookie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1	Sick Jake should have been given a chance! Hasslett let pride get in the way of trying to be competive. If thats the case, he\'s not as good a coach as I thought!
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01-08-2003, 04:43 PM	#20
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Sick The Panthers game was about arrogance . Hasletts head coaching is pure and simply about arrogance . He inspires his team to defeat what some would call a better opponent and rolls over assuming he could not lose to a weaker opponent . In the Panthers game it was his will be done over what the fans wanted . As long as Haslett is head coach it will be done his way or the highway . It could all come down to one thought : Haslett was willing to let all playoff chances slip by to prove he was the one calling the shots not the fans . 1. Haslett has publically attacked the fans of the New Orleans Saints . 2. Haslett brought reporters into the facility to review film and prove the fans were wrong . Players want out because Haslett is not about winning , he is about proving he is the head coach ...... The Carolina Panthers vs. New Orleans Saints game was actually : Haslett vs. The Fans .
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo