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homerj07 09-04-2014 05:14 PM

Another look at Dixon
 
I guess it would be hard not to have your brother around for the first time...


New Orleans Saints' Brian Dixon hopes twin makes it, too - ESPN

ScottF 09-04-2014 09:25 PM

Re: Another look at Dixon
 
I posted in the preseason that these twin brothers are playing for the Ryan twins.
More ironic is the UDFA making it and the 6th rounder is on the practice squad. Of the Jets.

jeanpierre 09-04-2014 10:19 PM

Re: Another look at Dixon
 
It's not the genes - it's what's in the heart, mind, soul...

hagan714 09-05-2014 09:23 AM

Re: Another look at Dixon
 
god given talent and skills are all there. i said it before the draft.

Question is did God stop there?

after the first two preseason games i was really questioning his football IQ at the pro level. still do

I can sit back and watch and see how this goes for a season

Danno 09-05-2014 09:34 AM

Re: Another look at Dixon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 607775)
god given talent and skills are all there. i said it before the draft.

Question is did God stop there?

after the first two preseason games i was really questioning his football IQ at the pro level. still do

I can sit back and watch and see how this goes for a season

What about his football IQ do you question?

hagan714 09-05-2014 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 607780)
What about his football IQ do you question?

same ol stuff you get from most small school players. IQ can be improved upon with practice and coaching. the question turns into were is the ceiling?

I am in not among the group that is wowed by his showing in preseason. he did fair against second and third team WR. Once interception does not make up for all his play.

I do understand the reasons for keeping him

it will be interesting to watch. I view Dixon as a long term project SJB. Question will be which ones has the steeper learning curve. With the second spent on SJB he better develop faster

|Mitch| 09-05-2014 09:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 607783)
With the second spent on SJB he better develop faster

Do you see him contributing outside of special teams this year?

hagan714 09-05-2014 09:52 AM

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let pray we stay healthy at CB

Ask yourself how would you react if in the middle of a game one or both SJB and Dixon were forced to play?

me my anxiety level would shoot through the roof.

|Mitch| 09-05-2014 09:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 607789)
Ask yourself how would you react if in the middle of a game one or both SJB and Dixon were forced to play?

Ryan would have to give safety help, but with Byrd's help we might be alright... :confused:

TheOak 09-05-2014 09:59 AM

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IQ isn't learned, its born with. Knowledge is learned.
Football IQ and football knowledge vary somewhat.

hagan714 09-05-2014 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 607793)
IQ isn't learned, its born with. Knowledge is learned.
Football IQ and football knowledge vary somewhat.

I agree basically but

IQ scores have been shown to be associated with such factors as morbidity and mortality,[3][4] parental social status,[5] and, to a substantial degree, biological parental IQ. While the heritability of IQ has been investigated for nearly a century, there is still debate about the significance of heritability estimates[6][7] and the mechanisms of inheritance.[8]


So let them bang there heads over it. 1000+ years and they are still debating. :rolleyes:

maybe i should reword it

Being a small school player he has a lot learn. As he learns we will see what what kind of football IQ he might have.

the question turns into what is his football IQ ceiling?

TheOak 09-05-2014 11:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 607795)
I agree basically but

IQ scores have been shown to be associated with such factors as morbidity and mortality,[3][4] parental social status,[5] and, to a substantial degree, biological parental IQ. While the heritability of IQ has been investigated for nearly a century, there is still debate about the significance of heritability estimates[6][7] and the mechanisms of inheritance.[8]

Intelligence quotient - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So let them bang there heads over it. 1000+ years and they are still debating. :rolleyes:

maybe i should reword it

Being a small school player he has a lot learn. As he learns we will see what what kind of football IQ he might have.

the question turns into what is his football IQ ceiling?

Intelligence which is what IQ measures is a persons capacity for a number of things and regardless of its origin doesn't increase much with age.

Adam Kirby @2 years old was the youngest member of British Mensa scoring 141 on the Stanford-Benet. There wasn't time to develop that and his parents are of average intelligence. Its a case of blue and yellow making green; or two gasses forming a liquid under the right circumstances.

Try looking at it from this perspective. There is a difference between learning, and memorizing... One requires memory and the other requires a level of conceptual understanding. We all memorize e = mc^2, few grasp the concept of theoretical relativity.

I do agree that it will take a bit of time for us as fans to understand his capacity since we only get limited amounts of exposure to him. I am sure, that coaches who have dealt with him have a good idea of what that is.

hagan714 09-05-2014 03:15 PM

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I actual dislike the term.

The term Instincts works better for me.

SmashMouth 09-05-2014 03:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 607793)
IQ isn't learned, its born with. Knowledge is learned.
Football IQ and football knowledge vary somewhat.

Can you be born to get great Wonderlic scores? :broccoli:

TheOak 09-05-2014 04:03 PM

Another look at Dixon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 607841)
I actual dislike the term.

The term Instincts works better for me.


Instincts are a 3rd discussion ;P

Most mothers are born with certain instincts that most fathers aren't and vice versa.

halloween 65 09-05-2014 06:47 PM

Re: Another look at Dixon
 
Getting deep gentlemen!! I like what Dixon has shown, I always root for the underdog, small school players, undrafted FA, seems like they have to prove more and just every now and then they do. I'm hoping he becomes a shut down corner.

hagan714 09-06-2014 07:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 607847)
Instincts are a 3rd discussion ;P

Most mothers are born with certain instincts that most fathers aren't and vice versa.


Instincts can be improve upon and to a degree taught.
we all have them
learn to how use them
practice them
learn to trust in them

as a coach once said: stop thinking about so much and just do it. have faith in yourself and in what you see.

that is what I think is really meant using the term football IQ.

The ability to trust ones instincts. the "higher the IQ" -quote unquote - more variations ones instincts can handle.

if you can not grasp a play book or play calling you are at the floor of a very tall cathedral building. that to me is not football IQ that is just inability to memorize. adjusting on the fly without thinking and making the right decision that is football IQ IMO

actual break down by definition is really kinda pointless. the medical society can not agree upon it so really why bother. plus in 100 years they will probably laugh about the test as measure of a person mental status or capability. we really have no clue how it all works between your ears anyway. till they do i take a lot of it with a grain of salt.

So IMO all football IQ is a convent term that works in the football world to measures how much those instincts can handle

Rugby Saint II 09-06-2014 01:19 PM

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I hope he takes the coaching and develops nicely.


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