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Danno 09-07-2014 05:44 PM
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PRob wasn't the problem. All of our DBS sucked today. Ryan hit 9 freaking receivers today. Focusing on Robinson is shortsighted.

TheOak 09-07-2014 05:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 608798)
I think pat Robinson sucks regardless of what he does

I said when we drafted him it was a reach for a guy that everyone had slated to go middle to late 2nd round and we made a first round pick

4 years later all I see is a younger version of Jason David
Many people focus on the reach.... Thats a sunk cost and our mistake.

I am not seeing a middle 2nd round pick on the field. That is a leagues worth of 'experts'.

blackangold 09-07-2014 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 608795)
I hate to tell everyone but Tampa might have better WRs than Atlanta and their run game is outstanding. Does anyone think PRob can cover Vincent Jackson or Mike Evans?
Not even close to the same.

ATL may have the best top 3/4 WRs in the league. We won't face another WR corps this good all year.

The next best passing attack is against the packers. Hopefully we can get our **** together by then.

TheOak 09-07-2014 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 608800)
PRob wasn't the problem. All of our DBS sucked today. Ryan hit 9 freaking receivers today. Focusing on Robinson is shortsighted.
Looking hard at 1 of a group is the definition of focus. I certainly wouldn't blanket statement an entire secondary where Byrd played very well.

Regardless of what you may feel, what you saw today on the field of P.Rob is exactly what you saw on the field of P. Rob in the last preseason game.

He plays too far off for his closing ability. He doesn't position himself to play the ball, he continuously ends up in a position where a completion happens right in front of him and he is trying to make a tackle. You saw it last week and commented on it if I recall correctly.

Danno 09-07-2014 06:18 PM
Re: LIVE OFFICIAL SAINTS VS. FALCONS GAMEDAY THREAD
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 608813)
Looking hard at 1 of a group is the definition of focus. I certainly wouldn't blanket statement an entire secondary where Byrd played very well.

Regardless of what you may feel, what you saw today on the field of P.Rob is exactly what you saw on the field of P. Rob in the last preseason game.

He plays too far off for his closing ability. He doesn't position himself to play the ball, he continuously ends up in a position where a completion happens right in front of him and he is trying to make a tackle. You saw it last week and commented on it if I recall correctly.
I'm not saying he didn't suck, only that everyone else did too. I don't think Byrd played well, I was disappointed. He was playing too deep, as many said about PRob, but with zero pass rush even good DBS will look bad.
Our pass rush betrayed our secondary today. If Galette and Jordan have even a decent game against backup tackles, our DBS probably perform much better

TheOak 09-07-2014 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 608819)
I'm not saying he didn't suck, only that everyone else did too. I don't think Byrd played well, I was disappointed. He was playing too deep, as many said about PRob, but with zero pass rush even good DBS will look bad.
Our pass rush betrayed our secondary today. If Galette and Jordan have even a decent game against backup tackles, our DBS probably perform much better
Those two goose egging on sacks didnt bother me nearly as much as... the one player that did get a sack being Tyrunn Walker and it was a bull rush of convincing fashion. That was not a coverage sack, or a botched play.

Until Tyrunn made that sack I was prepared to write it off as maybe staying home to stop Steve Jackson, or perhaps our defense just came out flat, which are both still possible.

But the second year back up LDE did what our prestigious book ends couldnt seem to do.

Everyone is playing back for some reason, to me, thats prevent. It has done us wrong many times before.

ikecomp 09-07-2014 07:07 PM
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I hate to tell people this but other teams will take advantage of one of our biggest weaknesses. Our linebackers are probably the slowest in the league and can't cover anyone. You typically saw our secondary getting burnt across the middle and crossing routes because they are trying to fill the huge void that our linebackers present in coverage.

Yes our secondary could've played better but when your linebackers are one dimensional and are only good against the run something has to give. If you look at other elite defenses they all have one to two linebackers that can somewhat cover. We have none.

voodooido 09-07-2014 07:13 PM
Re: LIVE OFFICIAL SAINTS VS. FALCONS GAMEDAY THREAD
 
Lets face it, the defense sucked. Will it get better though the year? Yes. Will it get better soon enough? More than likely. One loss, 15 games to go.

gulfgambler 09-07-2014 07:48 PM
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21 didn't allow 600 yards by himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It takes 11 guys to play like s@@t for this to happen.

Danno 09-07-2014 07:50 PM
Re: LIVE OFFICIAL SAINTS VS. FALCONS GAMEDAY THREAD
 
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Originally Posted by gulfgambler (Post 608860)
21 didn't allow 600 yards by himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post game post of the day!

hagan714 09-07-2014 07:52 PM
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The DB's did not play that well but i put the blame squarely on Rob Ryan for the defensive scheme he put in and the lack of adjustment when it was not working. since when do we play Atlanta this way. did yall see the space all the WR were given all game long? that is the DC. tackling is all on the players and boy did they fill the stat sheet in that department.

face facts we looked like the cowgirls out there today.

AliJee 09-08-2014 01:22 AM
Re: LIVE OFFICIAL SAINTS VS. FALCONS GAMEDAY THREAD
 
I blame the loss on the rain storm here in so cal right before the last lead we took, I couldn't watch the game and will the defense from the TV to perform better. At least I didn't have to watch them lose

TheOak 09-08-2014 06:45 AM
Re: LIVE OFFICIAL SAINTS VS. FALCONS GAMEDAY THREAD
 
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Originally Posted by AliJee (Post 608961)
I blame the loss on the rain storm here in so cal right before the last lead we took, I couldn't watch the game and will the defense from the TV to perform better. At least I didn't have to watch them lose
I lost coverage in OT and it came back to Colston throwing his helmet, I thought it was an INT for a while.

jeanpierre 09-08-2014 05:28 PM
Re: LIVE OFFICIAL SAINTS VS. FALCONS GAMEDAY THREAD
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 608983)
I lost coverage in OT and it came back to Colston throwing his helmet, I thought it was an INT for a while.
You've got to be kidding...height of the drama you lose coverage and then you regain signal to get the once-in-a-lifetime clip of Colston losing his poise, slamming his helmet?!?

The Long Island Ice Tea would be flowing...

TheOak 09-08-2014 08:39 PM
LIVE OFFICIAL SAINTS VS. FALCONS GAMEDAY THREAD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 609237)
You've got to be kidding...height of the drama you lose coverage and then you regain signal to get the once-in-a-lifetime clip of Colston losing his poise, slamming his helmet?!?



The Long Island Ice Tea would be flowing...

Wicked Nor Easta blew in from Conroe. Knocked everything out for 3-4 minutes.

Yep.... Just as it all came back on Colston is facing me body slamming his helmet.


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