I am sure the sky will be falling around here

CharityMike · 09-07-2014, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

How many fumbles has Colston had in the last few years?

He had 4 in 2012 and none in 2013. He has 9 total in his career with us. The problem is, its WHEN he fumbles that hurts the most.

lee909 · 09-07-2014, 06:29 PM

It must be a strange day
The Saints loose and Roman Harper has a interception

Its the end times

dizzle88 · 09-07-2014, 06:29 PM

Think about this, in 2012 colston did the exact same thing

Caught a slant pass in overtime and fumbled, only difference was Jimmy Graham recovered it in field goal range

The defense played terrible, but colston had the chance to save it and screwed it up instead

Settling for 2 field goals killed us to begin with but cam Jordan and galette better start playing like they are being paid to do

burningmetal · 09-07-2014, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

He had 4 in 2012 and none in 2013. He has 9 total in his career with us. The problem is, its WHEN he fumbles that hurts the most.

Exactly. It's when he does it that really sucks, but also that amount of fumbles in that period of time is an awful lot for a WR. Running backs get the ball far more often and they are getting hit by huge men. Receivers are down field getting hit by guys who are virtually the same size as they are. There's just no excuse for that much fumbling, especially at the crucial times that it always seems to happen.

blackangold · 09-07-2014, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

He had 4 in 2012 and none in 2013. He has 9 total in his career with us. The problem is, its WHEN he fumbles that hurts the most.

9 in 8 years isn't too bad...

No fumble is a good fumble regardless of the time it occurs. We can't look at the last play and say "hey this is why we lost right here, this last play". There was an entire game before that fumble.

Going to go back to work and eat crow... I boasted about the Saints D and we are the worst in the league. Yes, statically we will be the worst D in scoring and yards after week 1... not a good feeling.

CharityMike · 09-07-2014, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

9 in 8 years isn't too bad...

No fumble is a good fumble regardless of the time it occurs. We can't look at the last play and say "hey this is why we lost right here, this last play". There was an entire game before that fumble.

Going to go back to work and eat crow... I boasted about the Saints D and we are the worst in the league. Yes, statically we will be the worst D in scoring and yards after week 1... not a good feeling.

I agree 100%. I am not blaming the loss on Colston. It is a part but not the whole. I blame it on the D. Period paragraph! Had the D stopped anything, we wouldn't have been in the situation to begin with.

lee909 · 09-07-2014, 06:40 PM

I dont think the stats tell the story on all of Colstons fumbles
He is often catching in heavy traffic and taking big hits while receiving,its not like Drew is scarred of putting a hospital pass into his infield receivers

burningmetal · 09-07-2014, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Colston > Horn everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

How many fumbles has Colston had in the last few years?

Side-note:
I loved Ivory.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to say.

"Colston > Horn everyday of the week and twice on Sunday"... What does this mean? I'm not being sarcastic, I really have no idea what you are saying.

You have your answer on how many times he's fumbles from CharityMike, so I don't need to repeat that. And also, I loved Ivory too. But a lot of people hated on him for his fumbles, even though he actually fumbles less than Colston and played a position that lends itself to such occurrences far more often. The point was that if we can't blame Colston's fumble on himself then we can't blame anyone for a fumble. He had one hand on the ball and didn't have even have it against his chest. He was swinging his arm out, which is what he always does.

Halo · 09-07-2014, 06:47 PM

I'll end the controversay here of who to blame:

DEFENSE

Seriously, Matt Ryan and Atl had the ball with 26 seconds left in the first half on their 20 yard line. Two plays later they were in striking distance, got a field goal. That's when I started to worry.

Numerous WIDE OPEN receivers across the middle ALL DAT LONG. No defensive adjustments. Weak defensive scheme and poor coaching in-game adjustments (none).

2012 style tackling on the field. Sometimes 5 missed tackles. DB's looked stoned and out of position.

D-line was sad at best. SAD!

Colston was NOTHING compared to the non-performance of the defense. Brees? Not close. Offense had game, defense was stoned. As the game progressed we simply couldn't stop 'em.

Worried? Not right now. We have the talent and coach to make adjustments. It's a long long long season.

lee909 · 09-07-2014, 06:49 PM

I think most people are worried if we hold a lead with around 90 seconds to go. The Seahawks or a fully fit 49ers team are fans are far more confident of seeing the game out

09-07-2014, 06:27 PM	#51
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: I am sure the sky will be falling around here Originally Posted by blackangold How many fumbles has Colston had in the last few years? He had 4 in 2012 and none in 2013. He has 9 total in his career with us. The problem is, its WHEN he fumbles that hurts the most. Halo likes this.

09-07-2014, 06:29 PM	#52
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I am sure the sky will be falling around here It must be a strange day The Saints loose and Roman Harper has a interception Its the end times Halo, hagan714, CharityMike and 3 others like this.

09-07-2014, 06:29 PM	#53
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: I am sure the sky will be falling around here Think about this, in 2012 colston did the exact same thing Caught a slant pass in overtime and fumbled, only difference was Jimmy Graham recovered it in field goal range The defense played terrible, but colston had the chance to save it and screwed it up instead Settling for 2 field goals killed us to begin with but cam Jordan and galette better start playing like they are being paid to do

09-07-2014, 06:33 PM	#54
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I am sure the sky will be falling around here Originally Posted by CharityMike He had 4 in 2012 and none in 2013. He has 9 total in his career with us. The problem is, its WHEN he fumbles that hurts the most. Exactly. It's when he does it that really sucks, but also that amount of fumbles in that period of time is an awful lot for a WR. Running backs get the ball far more often and they are getting hit by huge men. Receivers are down field getting hit by guys who are virtually the same size as they are. There's just no excuse for that much fumbling, especially at the crucial times that it always seems to happen.

09-07-2014, 06:34 PM	#55
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I am sure the sky will be falling around here Originally Posted by CharityMike He had 4 in 2012 and none in 2013. He has 9 total in his career with us. The problem is, its WHEN he fumbles that hurts the most. 9 in 8 years isn't too bad... No fumble is a good fumble regardless of the time it occurs. We can't look at the last play and say "hey this is why we lost right here, this last play". There was an entire game before that fumble. Going to go back to work and eat crow... I boasted about the Saints D and we are the worst in the league. Yes, statically we will be the worst D in scoring and yards after week 1... not a good feeling.

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09-07-2014, 06:39 PM	#56
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: I am sure the sky will be falling around here Originally Posted by blackangold 9 in 8 years isn't too bad... No fumble is a good fumble regardless of the time it occurs. We can't look at the last play and say "hey this is why we lost right here, this last play". There was an entire game before that fumble. Going to go back to work and eat crow... I boasted about the Saints D and we are the worst in the league. Yes, statically we will be the worst D in scoring and yards after week 1... not a good feeling. I agree 100%. I am not blaming the loss on Colston. It is a part but not the whole. I blame it on the D. Period paragraph! Had the D stopped anything, we wouldn't have been in the situation to begin with.

09-07-2014, 06:40 PM	#57
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I am sure the sky will be falling around here I dont think the stats tell the story on all of Colstons fumbles He is often catching in heavy traffic and taking big hits while receiving,its not like Drew is scarred of putting a hospital pass into his infield receivers

09-07-2014, 06:42 PM	#58
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I am sure the sky will be falling around here Originally Posted by blackangold Colston > Horn everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. How many fumbles has Colston had in the last few years? Side-note: I loved Ivory. I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to say. "Colston > Horn everyday of the week and twice on Sunday"... What does this mean? I'm not being sarcastic, I really have no idea what you are saying. You have your answer on how many times he's fumbles from CharityMike, so I don't need to repeat that. And also, I loved Ivory too. But a lot of people hated on him for his fumbles, even though he actually fumbles less than Colston and played a position that lends itself to such occurrences far more often. The point was that if we can't blame Colston's fumble on himself then we can't blame anyone for a fumble. He had one hand on the ball and didn't have even have it against his chest. He was swinging his arm out, which is what he always does.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

09-07-2014, 06:47 PM	#59
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,718 Blog Entries: 45	Re: I am sure the sky will be falling around here I'll end the controversay here of who to blame: DEFENSE Seriously, Matt Ryan and Atl had the ball with 26 seconds left in the first half on their 20 yard line. Two plays later they were in striking distance, got a field goal. That's when I started to worry. Numerous WIDE OPEN receivers across the middle ALL DAT LONG. No defensive adjustments. Weak defensive scheme and poor coaching in-game adjustments (none). 2012 style tackling on the field. Sometimes 5 missed tackles. DB's looked stoned and out of position. D-line was sad at best. SAD! Colston was NOTHING compared to the non-performance of the defense. Brees? Not close. Offense had game, defense was stoned. As the game progressed we simply couldn't stop 'em. Worried? Not right now. We have the talent and coach to make adjustments. It's a long long long season. hagan714, saintsfan1976, CharityMike and 1 others like this.
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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I am sure the sky will be falling around here I think most people are worried if we hold a lead with around 90 seconds to go. The Seahawks or a fully fit 49ers team are fans are far more confident of seeing the game out Halo and SaintsBro like this.

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